Muon and kde-gtk-config moved to kde/workspace - was - Re: Moving repositories in the module structure

[Albert Astals Cid]

El Dilluns, 6 d'octubre de 2014, a les 01:30:47, Aleix Pol va escriure:
> On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 8:30 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
> > El Divendres, 3 d'octubre de 2014, a les 03:28:44, Aleix Pol va escriure:
> > > On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 1:52 AM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
> > > > El Divendres, 3 d'octubre de 2014, a les 00:04:42, Aleix Pol va
> > 
> > escriure:
> > > > > On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 11:34 PM, Ben Cooksley <bcooksley at kde.org>
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It seems there has been a recent outbreak of repository moves
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > have been extremely poorly co-ordinated by those doing the
> > 
> > requests.
> > 
> > > > > > In addition, it is actually a requirement that modules moving from
> > > > > > Extragear into (what was at least) the SC need to re-transit
> > 
> > through
> > 
> > > > > > KDE Review.It is also considered proper practice to at least
> > > > > > inform
> > > > > > the translation, documentation and release  teams in advance you
> > > > > > intend to make these moves - something which has also been
> > 
> > neglected.
> > 
> > > > > > For all further repository structure moves - please ensure you
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > received the appropriate consent from the above mentioned teams,
> > 
> > and
> > 
> > > > > > have announced them on the appropriate mailing lists in advance.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > @Plasma team: plasma-devel at kde.org does not constitute an
> > 
> > appropriate
> > 
> > > > > > mailing list, as it is not a community wide development mailing
> > 
> > list.
> > 
> > > > > > Only kde-devel and kde-core-devel qualify for this.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Ben Cooksley
> > > > > > KDE Sysadmin
> > > > > 
> > > > > My apologies, I shouldn't have rushed into doing such moves and send
> > > > > e-mails to all the interested parties.
> > > > > 
> > > > > If someone considers it appropriate, I can roll some of the changes
> > > > > back.
> > > > 
> > > > Maybe you should explain the changes so people is aware of them :)
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > 
> > > >   Albert
> > > >   
> > > > > Aleix
> > > 
> > > Changes:
> > > - kde-gtk-config was moved from extragear/base to kde/workspace.
> > > - muon was moved from extragear/sysadmin to kde/workspace.
> > > 
> > > That is, only projects.kde.org structure change.
> > 
> > That's a total understament, it changes them from being something "extra"
> > to
> > be something totally core. So it's not "only" at all.
> > 
> > > The reasoning is that this way they will be released together with
> > > Plasma
> > > Workspace.
> > 
> > I don't see that anyone can have a problem with kde-gtk-config.
> > 
> > The muon move i see as much less clear, there are other "installers"
> > provided
> > by KDE (kpackagekit comes to mind) and muon is not widely used (AFAIK)
> > outside
> > KUbuntu, thus putting all the weight of making it a core thing is
> > something I
> > think we should not be doing without a bigger discussion with the
> > community,
> > and not just in Plasma.
> 
> I don't expect to compete with Apper. Muon Discover is a software center
> and that's the main solution I'm pushing here, as I explained in Plasma.
> Apper is a package manager. That is, a way where we can display to our
> end-users what software there's available and also lets us a couple of
> tricks to get biased.
> 
> I think this is very important, because it opens an opportunity to offer
> the end-user the full KDE experience we've been talking about. So far, the
> way everyone had to expose software was by creating a (usually spin-off)
> distribution where there was tons of software pre-installed. By providing a
> software center we open channels to communicate with the user where he can
> leverage on previous' users experience, as well as our own.

I'm not sure I understand the difference between a "Software Center" and a 
"Package Manager", can you elaborate what is the difference?

Cheers,
  Albert