Moving Baloo forward

Vishesh Handa me at
Fri Jan 17 16:50:38 GMT 2014

Hey Albert

Thanks for sending this email.

On Friday 17 January 2014 01:47:17 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> Hi guys, seems we have reached a kind of impasse regarding what to do with
> Baloo and Nepomuk. Since the 4.13 freeze is coming sooner than you think
> (less than 6 weeks) I'd like to try to get it moving again.
> Here comes my proposal:
> Create a wiki where you clearly explain:
>  * What is Baloo
>  * Why Nepomuk is unfixable
>  * What's the strategy of migrating Nepomuk data to Baloo
>  * Can Nepomuk and Baloo run together? If so does data flow both ways? No
> way? One way?
>  * For each application that we know uses nepomuk
>   - Is it going to be ported? When?
>   - If not ported can it still run the same with nepomuk installed?
>   - If not ported what's the harm if nepomuk is not installed?
>  * What is the support plan for Baloo based in kdelibs4 once KF5 is
> released?
> I guess that most of the answers can be extracted from the emails of the
> discussion, but having a central place that people can go and read surely
> helps.

Could someone please prooof read this page and let me know where it can be 

> Now my personal opinion is that unless some of the answers are catastrophic
> (i.e. something like "It will eat all your data") we should move to Baloo as
> soon as possible.
> For me the situation is this:
>  * I accept the domain experts opinion that Nepomuk is unfixable
>  * That means we need a replacement, Baloo
>  * Baloo is [almost] ready
>  * Baloo will have bugs (as all software does)
> Now with this situation we can do two things:
>  * Move to Baloo as soon as possible
>  * Move to Baloo sometime in the future (let's say 1 year)
> If we move now, in one year we will have had 1 year of real usage uncovering
> bugs and 1 year of bugfixes.
> If we move in one year, we will have lost that 1 year of real usage (since
> few people will be using it) and so in one year we will be in the same
> situation as we are now. On top of that we have the possibility that the
> Baloo guys have lost motivation
> Thus my suggestion is that after we get the wiki done and we explain clearly
> the situation as Thomas L├╝bking suggested (i.e. if you really really really
> really need what Nepomuk provides and can't accept a single regression in
> that field, do not upgrade), we go ahead with moving to Baloo instead of
> Nepomuk.
> What do you think?

A huge +1.

I've sent an email to the kde-promo team asking them to help me with the 

Given that we're clearly informing the world - "Do not upgrade if you want to 
continue using Nepomuk", it does not make sense to still ship the Nepomuk KCM 
and kioslave. I will be removing them from kde-runtime.

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