[Kde-pim] Problems with infrastructure

Albert Astals Cid aacid at kde.org
Thu Dec 11 22:23:59 GMT 2014

El Dijous, 11 de desembre de 2014, a les 07:48:51, Aaron J. Seigo va escriure:
> On Wednesday, December 10, 2014 15.27:31 Ben Cooksley wrote:
> > It has come to my attention that some developers have "issues" with
> > KDE infrastructure in certain areas. This is the first time i've heard
> I suspect the issues are the same ones that led us to experiment with gitlab
> a while back. Christian's response seems to back that up.
> A modern, consistent, unified, user-friendly interface to the source
> lifecycle of a project is pretty desirable. Github and the like have really
> set people's expectations there pretty high. Having a bunch of separate
> tools with somewhat-to-less-clunky interfaces, each with their own
> individual learning curves is just not very attractive when Github sits
> there shiny and usable. 

and siloed and non-free.

> It's also what more and more new developers get to
> know through their first experiences.
> Whether gerrit is a useful too or not, another separate tool won't bring the
> desired changes. It's an attempt to answer a rather different question,
> actually.
> I don't know if it matters to KDE or not, but if appealing to new
> generations of developers and keeping existing ones as happy as possible is
> a goal[1], then it would make a lot of sense to orchestrate a move to
> something that provides such a "github-like" experience, even if it has
> other drawbacks. Those drawbacks probably don't matter as much. If they
> did, github wouldn't be thriving quite as much as it does.

is it thriving in our target audience?


> [1] thinking that it "would be nice" or "that would be a good idea" does not
> make it a goal
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