Review Request: include KolorManager in kdegraphics

Lamarque V. Souza lamarque at
Thu Mar 15 12:45:53 GMT 2012

Em Thursday 15 March 2012, Thomas Zander escreveu:
> On Wednesday 14 March 2012 20.31.30 Lamarque V. Souza wrote:
> >         I said I wanted the most versatile, which means one that
> >         satisfies
> > 
> > my  needs and somebody else's needs.
> The requirement for 'most versatile' doesn't follow in that sentence.
> You are making a logic error, or at least taking the biggest car and
> hoping it will get you there fastest.

	No, I choose a car that carries my and my family's luggage in a 
reasonable speed. Most of the time I can drive alone, but it is still usefull 
to have a reasonable sized trunk to carry something for me or someone of my 
family. Or do you think I should always buy a moto and never a car just 
because I prefer driving fast?
> If you want to satisfy your needs, try it for a while and see if it works.
> > You are completey ignoring the fact
> > that there are people using oyranos too, it has been developed for years,
> > do you think it's fair to drop all that work now?
> Hmm, you pose lots of questions that are completely off-topic here.
> And jumping to weird conclusions about dropping work is just unhelpful.

	I think dropping work must be carefully decided, if nobody uses the code 
so drop it. I am ready to drop Kopete once telepathy-kde fullfills my needs 
and I have already dropped features from Plasma NM that nobody used. If there 
are people using oyranos I think that must be taking into account.
> > I am in favor of adding
> > support to both colord and oyranos in kdegraphics.
> I strongly disagree with that.
> KDE is not a support group where lonely software goes to get more
> recognition. This community works based on choosing solutions that
> work best.  Your suggestion to not choose is therefore not helpful.

	That was not my suggestion, somebody else suggested that in #kde-devel 
and I agree because I think that fullfills the needs of most KDE users.
> >         And no, I have not tested either of them
> Then I'm sorry to say, your opinion is just that, one uninformed opinion.

	Like everybody else's opinion in this thread.

> At minimum read this;
> And tell us if there is any reason to say that this product does *not*
> satisfy your needs (when the KDE stuff is finished)

	I do not have a need for color management nowadays, which does not mean 
I cannot help fullfill somebody else's needs. I do not always do things for 
myself only.
> Basic design of system color management is that each input (scanner
> etc) and each output (monitor, printer) has to have assigned a
> personal color profile.
> Applications that are capable of doing color management have to have
> access to those profiles so they can use them in combination with a
> library like lcms to do the right thing.

	How that is different from oyranos?
> Colord embraces that concept and provides all we need.
> Oyranos makes things ... complicated.  See;

	By reading the front page of both web pages I cannot judge which one is 
more complicated. I do not have time to read all pages in both projects now 

Lamarque V. Souza
KDE's Network Management maintainer
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