DrKonqi improvement idea

Martin Gräßlin mgraesslin at kde.org
Mon Mar 12 18:46:58 GMT 2012


On Monday 12 March 2012 19:39:12 Niko Sams wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 19:34, Martin Gräßlin <mgraesslin at kde.org> wrote:
> > On Monday 12 March 2012 19:26:27 Niko Sams wrote:
> >> On Sun, Mar 11, 2012 at 13:57, henry miller <hank at millerfarm.com> wrote:
> >> > Good ideas, if anyone actually implements it. A couple of comments.
> >> > 
> >> > Most users are not programmers - they will not know how to recogize
> >> > similear backtraces are the same root cause. Worse I know of many cases
> >> > where I - a programmer - was wrong.
> >> > 
> >> > The more automated detection we can do the better. In fact many random
> >> > crashes have been traced down to the same root cause, so we really need
> >> > the
> >> > ability to check the user's config in a distribution specific way. If
> >> > some
> >> > misconfiguration is found we can ignore the backtrace.
> >> 
> >> DrKonqi already detects duplicates, which works pretty good usually.
> >> But there is still room for improvement...
> > 
> > *cough*
> > https://bugs.kde.org/report.cgi?x_axis_field=resolution&y_axis_field=&z_ax
> > is_field=&query_format=report-
> > table&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=kwin&bug_status=
> > UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_sta
> > tus=RESOLVED&bug_status=NEEDSINFO&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&lo
> > ngdesc_type=allwordssubstr&longdesc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_
> > file_loc=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&bug_id=&bug_id_type=anyexact&vo
> > tes=&votes_type=greaterthaneq&bug_severity=crash&emailassigned_to1=1&email
> > type1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailcc2=1&em
> > ailtype2=substring&email2=&emailtype3=substring&email3=&chfield=[Bug+creat
> > ion]&chfieldvalue=&chfieldfrom=2011-01-01&chfieldto=Now&j_top=AND&f1=noop&
> > o1=noop&v1=&format=table&action=wrap
> > 
> > That's the stats for all crash reports reported against kwin since
> > 01/01/2011 and now. It illustrates nicely one of the major problems of
> > DrKonqui: you can report the duplicates.
> > 
> > Of course KWin is the worst case scenario for measuring DrKonqui as we
> > have
> > all those nice driver bugs ;-)
> 
> wow, you poor guy :D
> 
> Well then KWin would profit a lot!
yes, indeed and I must say that I think your idea is great. If a project gets 
started I will support it, just to get to the point where we can tell users: 
click foo than bar to disable baz and the crash is gone :-)

Cheers
Martin
> And finding duplicates should be
> done server side,
> so it can be improved without having to wait for DrKonqi getting updated.
> 
> 
> Niko
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