GSoC idea: Country holiday service for calendar and calendar improvements

[Mark]

On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 4:02 PM, todd rme <toddrme2178 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Mark <markg85 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 9:02 AM, todd rme <toddrme2178 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 10, 2012 at 1:15 AM, Mark <markg85 at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > = Current issue =
> >> > The current digital clock has a calendar, but the default events are
> >> > really
> >> > pointless for non usa people. I see the events and i certainly don't
> >> > live in
> >> > the usa. So, the data in there has to be a little more focused on
> where
> >> > the
> >> > user lives. For example having the Dutch holidays in it for the Dutch
> >> > users.
> >> > German for... you get the idea.
> >>
> >> No, by default the events are from the country in system settings ->
> >> locale Country/Region and Language -> Country.  So if you set Germany
> >> there, you will see German holidays.
> >>
> > Ah right. That does make me wonder why my system thinks i'm in USA..
>
> I don't know.  Try removing the clock applet and re-adding it.
>

ahh, seems my system locale was still set at the default. Changed that but
i don't know if that fixes it.

>
> >>
> >> > = Issues =
> >> > I'm not a KDE n00b and i have no clue where the current calender
> events
> >> > are
> >> > pulled from or where i can even change them, add them or delete them.
> >> > It's
> >> > not visible at all. I would have expected korganizer but to my
> surprise
> >> > that
> >> > is empty. So where is is pulling the events from?
> >>
> >> If you want to change it to your country, just change your country in
> >> the locale (you have to restart plasma for the changes to take
> >> effect).  If you want something other than your locale country,
> >> right-click on the clock -> Digital Clock Settings -> Calender.  There
> >> you can enable or disable as many holidays as you want.
> >
> >
> > I see what you mean. Sadly this functionality seems to be broken? I can't
> > select/change/delete any holiday that's in there. I even turned  "display
> > events" off. That results in.. events/holidays being displayed. Seems
> like
> > the display events checkbox isn't honored.
>
> Works for me.  I think events and holidays aren't the same thing, try
> turning all the holidays off if you don't want them.
>

Ahh, found it. Do you know how the calendar looks when you disable holidays
and events.. Give it a shot, it isn't looking well

>
> >>
> >> > = make it yourself: holidays.kde.org =
> >> > No, that domain doesn't work (yet) ;)
> >> > Since there is no free holiday API, but all the data is freely
> available
> >> > on
> >> > the
> >> > internet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_holidays_by_country why
> >> > not make a holiday system where users can contribute the holidays. So
> i
> >> > for
> >> > example can add all the dutch holidays, someone can review and check
> >> > that i
> >> > didn't fill in bogus data and done. Dutch holidays are in the system.
> >> > This
> >> > system then needs an API (REST perhaps?) where you can request all
> >> > holidays
> >> > by (or a mixture of) year/country/month/day something like that. Make
> >> > the
> >> > web API publicly and freely available for anyone to use.
> >>
> >> There is already a holidays API, and people already can and do submit
> >> holidays for different countries to KDE.
> >
> >
> > Please do tell more.
>
> http://www.layt.net/john/blog/odysseus/holidays_in_kde_release_46
>
> Look at the end for info on how to get more added.
>
> That... could use a GSoC ;-)


> >>
> >>
> >> > = Integrate holidays.kde.org with organizer or akonadi (or
> nepomuk?.. i
> >> > lost
> >> > it) =
> >> > Lets for the moment make the assumption that this data is PIM data
> thus
> >> > akonadi is the one where this should be stored. Organizer should
> >> > interface
> >> > with akonadi. I could be mixing up the akonadi and nepomuk names now.
> If
> >> > so,
> >> > please do correct me. Either way, the API of holidays.kde.org should
> be
> >> > used
> >> > to fetch and store the users country holidays in his local PIM
> database
> >> > which should show up in KOrganizer (as a seperate calendar) and that
> >> > should
> >> > show up in the digital clock calendar. That seems logical to me.
> >>
> >> Korganizer can already use the API.  Go to Settings -> Configure
> >> Korganizer -> Time and Date -> Regional -> Use Holiday Region.  It
> >> doesn't appear to use your country by default, though.
> >
> >
> > ehh, oke. It "kinda" works but work is definitively needed to make
> > KOrganizer be intuitive.
>
> If you have a specific suggestion you can file a bug report.  However,
> it is almost certainly not sufficient for a GSOC project.
>

Well, i actually think the calendar and clock part should be redesigned in
QML and be 2 different "plasmoids". When events and/or holidays are enabled
those two components should be somehow placed in a container component
(does that even exist?) which should look the same as the current calendar.

Anyway, the current way that holidays and events are done is way to much
black magic. It really should be very transparent through KOrganizer where
those items are just being shown in the calendar next to the clock. The
current way is just not user friendly.

>
> -Todd
>
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