The future of Power Management - together with Activities

Ben Cooksley bcooksley at
Mon Oct 3 04:49:59 BST 2011

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Michael Pyne <mpyne at> wrote:
> On Sunday, October 02, 2011 20:01:55 Dario Freddi wrote:
>> I know, and I am sorry I had to come to a point where I needed to be
>> harsh. You also have to keep in mind I am one of the few guys who does
>> the dirty job, and I mostly get flames more than anything. Usually,
>> the gratification for a developer is having users saying thanks, your
>> app rocks: my gratification is usually getting no feedback at all
>> because things work as they should.
> Actually I can empathize a bit. I don't maintain much in kdelibs but I do
> maintain KSharedDataCache, and you're almost exactly right: I pretty much
> never hear about it unless it's in association with a backtrace. Of course I
> am "lucky" in that KSDC is nearly completely hidden from users, so I don't get
> flamed over it.

Other "infrastructure" applications and components are also affected
by this. In regards to System Settings (which I maintain), I only ever
get mail regarding it when it crashes or when I try to change
something. It is one of many components (Bluedevil, Network
Management, kdelibs, Power Management and so forth) who are expected
to "just work".

>> So
>> I am sorry and I deeply apologize if I can get easily angry when
>> discussions start going down these kind of slopes, but at least try
>> and show some understanding from the other side as well.
> I understand, I've sometimes had the misfortune of having to get into debates
> with inaccurate "shared state" between the debaters. Just remember that on
> kde-core-devel we *are* on your side, and if it seems like we're not then
> there's probably some underlying issue or point not being understood clearly.
> Sometimes that's not your fault, sometimes it is. But even when it wasn't my
> fault I've found it's usually better to simply restate the point that seems
> unclear (either in different words or via an example) rather than to refer to
> previous emails in a thread. You won't convince everyone this way obviously,
> but at least everyone should have the same understanding.
> Of course, you've done exactly that now with the Vimeo video and by posting
> the code to git so I will be happy to watch the screencast once Vimeo works
> again. :)

I downloaded and watched the clip. It works pretty much how I thought
it would work - in terms of the System Settings ui and the Plasma
applet. (I hope that is two seperate System Settings modules though,
so it shows up properly with the classic view)

> Regards,
>  - Michael Pyne


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