Formal complaint concerning the use of the name "System Settings" by GNOME

[Ambroz Bizjak]

Hi Mark,
have you seen my proposed improvement on your suggestion?

http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=131149560119520&w=2

I suggest that you consider it, because it would avoid having to
update the Freedesktop specification and any DE that doesn't name its
programs differently in other DEs (e.g. Xfce).

On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Mark <markg85 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 2011/7/24 Ben Cooksley <bcooksley at kde.org>:
>> Dropping GNOME out of this, as it seems quite clear they aren't
>> interested in co-operating at all. Which is fairly typical for them,
>> they're insular and only care for themselves.
>>
>> In any case, we need a short term solution to this. Basically, we are
>> going to have to provide a different name under GNOME, because
>> otherwise  GNOME users will complain to distros, who will patch GNOME
>> to ignore System Settings (I refuse to acknowledge their app).
>>
>> A long term solution, sharing settings isn't even counted, as they are
>> bound to screw us over yet again in some way. They are not to be
>> trusted.
>> Adding the panels apps need to them isn't exactly workable either due
>> to the number of applicable panels and apps.
>>
>> As was proposed earlier, System Settings would call itself "System
>> Settings" under KDE, but would prefix "KDE" to the name under all
>> other environments. ie. KDE System Settings under xfce.
>>
>> I have recieved objections that this collides with the "branding
>> policy" however. Given such an objection, what do those of you who
>> object propose?
>> A solution must be reached, otherwise it is the users of our
>> applications who will ultimately suffer - and we will probably get
>> blamed for it.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Ben Cooksley
>> System Settings Maintainer
>>
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> Could you read and comment on my proposal:
> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-core-devel&m=131142514605051&w=2
> I would like to implement this in the spec, KDE en Gnome, but i need
> some pointers on where i should make such edits and to get it
> approved.
>
> I think that is the most sane solution that doesn't require multiple
> desktop files.
>
> If you agree on this, what do i need to do next?
> Just some guesses..
> - Propose the updated standard in the freedesktop mailing list (which one?)
> - Make patched for KDE (which component? where? file?)
> - Make patches for gnome (which component? where? file?)
>
> Note: anyone is fine, not just Ben. Aiming at him since he started this mailing.
>
> Regards,
> Mark
>