Opposition to removing old KWin themes?

Nuno Pinheiro nuno.pinheiro at kdab.com
Sat Jul 24 18:48:35 BST 2010

A Sábado, 24 de Julho de 2010 16:54:41 Luciano Montanaro você escreveu:
> On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 12:14 PM, nuno pinheiro <nuno at oxygen-icons.org> 
> > On Friday 23 July 2010 23:02:25 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> >> A Divendres, 23 de juliol de 2010, Leo Savernik va escriure:
> >> > Am Donnerstag, 22. Juli 2010 22:12 schrieb Marco Martin:
> >> > > there could be either a flat mode in oxygen (already is, can be
> >> > > configured) or -one- of the old ones can be left in place.
> >> > > but right now, the -real- motivation is simply this:
> >> > > shipping something that looks outdated like that gives a really bad
> >> > > image of kde.
> >> > 
> >> > You sound as if KDE were shipped with Redmond theme turned on by
> >> > default. Enabling the user to configure his system butt ugly but
> >> > blazingly fast does not contradict elegance in any way.
> Hi Nuno, you mentioned this at the Akademy, but I'm still unconvinced
> it matters so much. Supposedly, most users never change the settings
> from the defaults... so I cannot see how this is such a big problem in
> practice.
> > OOO but it does IMO. wen you present such an uncohesive list of ugly
> > options that says alot about your overall elegance.
> > 
> > I hate to sound like my wife wen I leave home poorly dressed, but the way
> > we present ourself as a huge impact in this fast consuming low attention
> > span world, the impact is of the worst kind and stands as a huge first
> > entry level barrier that translate in something like this to "Joe
> > facebook"  user "this guys are clueless and I don't want to be like
> > them" i might also note that we have loads of such problems across KDE
> > and this is not the worst case, but if we truly want a elegant polished
> > desktop we need to start doing that, providing an overall polished
> > experience were no detail is left to chance.
> But we have; let's say that we also allow for a few nostalgic old
> timers that don't know any better, like me? ;-)
> Keeping in line with your analogy, I hope your wife did not throw away
> all your white socks to be sure you could not embarass yourself...

if i had any im sure she would, and you know what i would probably thank her 
in the end :)

> I'm only joking, but I can say a few users would feel treated a bit in
> the same way by a move like this.
> Ciao,
> Luciano

Nuno Pinheiro | nuno.pinheiro at kdab.com | UI Designer 
Klarälvdalens Datakonsult AB, a KDAB Group company
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