kmix PulseAudio support

[Christian Esken]

Am Mittwoch, 6. Januar 2010 13:16:53 schrieb Alexis Ménard:
> On Wed, Jan 6, 2010 at 12:56 PM, Helio Chissini de Castro <helio at kde.org> 
wrote:
> > On Wednesday 06 January 2010 09:40:10 Sebastian Kügler wrote:
> >> On Wednesday 06 January 2010 11:24:04 Colin Guthrie wrote:
> >> > After improving Phonon integration I've been digging through the kmix
> >> > code to try and add proper PulseAudio support.

Phonon integration is the way to go. Apps or App categories should show as 
controls.

BTW: How does one activate the Phonone backend? I have never seen it in 
action.


> >> > I have two remaining issues that I do not think are show stoppers:
> >> >  1. Everytime a new device shows up a new Global Shortcut dialog
> >> > appears. I don't think this is any different to ALSA but.... as I now
> >> > have per-app volume control, this dialog is also shown everytime a new
> >> > application plays sound. It only happens once, but it could still be
> >> > considered annoying by some.

No, it doesn't happen for ALSA. Nor for OSS. Why should it?

Anyhow, this is a showstopper.


> >> > Obviously if PA is not running, this whole patchset should amount to a
> >> > NOOP. Also even if PA is running you can export
> >> > KMIX_PULSEAUDIO_DISABLE=1 to disable the integration.

That is not good. Pulseaudio has always been a mess to me, usually it would 
not work at all, haning applications (not only KMix).


> >> Thanks for keeping sanity for those whose setups don't work with
> >>  pulseaudio.

Like me. Don't activate PulseAudio by default. IMO that beast is a mess.

> +1 KMix is horrible to use and way behind what's KDE 4 provides as a
> user interface point of view.

I don't buy this flat statement. What is so horrible? Please indicate mixers 
that are better usable.

> Unfortunately there is not that much
> contributors behind right?

I would be happy to see more, yes.


> > So i say, lets integrate for 4.4.x with minor modifications to enable
> > user decide to alsa x pulse mixer ( not using env var ), and in the

I agree with Sebastian, and say no. The amount of changes is just too much for 
the already frozen 4.4.


> > sprint multimedia will be a ground zero point to new mixer interface and

What exactly do you mean with "new"?!?

You guys get me quite confused in this mail thread. Please do not say "it is 
bad" or "lets change things" without indicating what you mean.




  Christian