Thomas L├╝bking thomas.luebking at
Mon Oct 5 18:55:21 BST 2009

I don't see any problem here as I do not claim to know anything better and 
Amarok has imho made great improvements in this regard anyway.
(these runtime patches exist for 1 1/2 year now)

Therefore i'm pretty confident that we could easily end up with a state that I 
would prefer even over the current Bespin variant.
(leaving aside the technical issue of such runtime patch that i didn't 
introduce for pure fun* but because i felt there was no other way**)

My main question would be where such kind of discussion should preferably 
- amarok mailing list
- irc
- direct mails


*ok, i /might/ have enjoyed this as some kind of game ;-)
** when i started to care about this, there had already been a lot of flame and 
frontiers seemed to be pretty much set in stone

Am Monday 05 October 2009 schrieb Jeff Mitchell:
> The fact that we may not have been open to specific patches in the past
> doesn't mean we're not open to help with our UI, and in fact I for one
> would welcome some input from someone with significant experience with
> UI and styles. So, I'd be interested in opening up some serious dialog
> with you about how we could make things prettier overall while at the
> same time removing hacks from Bespin.
> That being said: It would require a measure of compromise on your part
> as well as ours. You may have suggestions and ideas that we don't like,
> just as we may have ones that you don't. We'd have to work together to
> come up with ideas and suggestions that we can all live with (which is
> how Amarok as a whole is developed). So if you feel like you can
> integrate with us in that way and fit in with the way we do development,
> then let's certainly talk and see what we can come up with together.
> --Jeff

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