KDE/kdelibs

[Andreas Pakulat]

On 26.11.09 09:25:34, Sebastian Trueg wrote:
> Volker Krause wrote:
> > On Thursday 26 November 2009 05:14:21 Ian Wadham wrote:
> >> On Thursday 26 November 2009 10:18:52 am Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> >>> On 25.11.09 20:49:42, Sebastian Trueg wrote:
> >>>> SVN commit 1054298 by trueg:
> >>>>
> >>>> Nepomuk in kdelibs now depends on the new shared-desktop-ontologies
> >>>> package which is developed in the OSCAF project[1] - a joint forces
> >>>> project by members of Nepomuk-KDE, Strigi, Tracker, and other research
> >>>> partners such as DFKI Kaiserslautern or DERI Galway.
> >>>>
> >>>> After this commit I will start to remove all copies of ontologies from
> >>>> the KDE svn.
> >>> IMHO:
> >>> As this is clearly not a bugfix, the cmake-parts are apparently broken
> >>> (see Alex mail), its not in the feature plan and you didn't announce
> >>> this new dependency anywhere I think you need to revert this and wait
> >>> with it for KDE 4.5. You completely ignored any policies we've setup for
> >>> kdelibs development.
> >> IMHO also:
> >> Quite apart from any breach of rules that may have taken place, I object
> >> in principle to new KDE library dependencies being introduced at the
> >> instigation of one developer or group of developers, presumably for the
> >> convenience of their own work, not just in this case but in several other
> >> cases in the past.
> >>
> >> What it means is that *every* developer who wants to update the libraries
> >> he/she normally uses, for any reason at all, has to go and find the
> >> required package, download it, build it, etc, etc, regardless of whether
> >> they have any use for it or even know what it is [1].  That process is
> >> repeated hundreds of times around the globe by one KDE developer after
> >> another ...  FAIK it may also affect the work of distros and eventually
> >> end-users.  In this case, for example, will the average user need this
> >> ontologies thing?
> >>
> >> Surely there is a better way?  I am certain there must be ...
> > 
> > Well, the current way certainly isn't better, we have several copies of these 
> > files all over KDE (kdepim alone has two already), a maintenance nightmare. 
> > Also, keep in mind that we are talking about pure data files here, nothing to 
> > compile etc (at least AFAIK).
> 
> 
> yes, noting to compile. no dependencies. If this is such a big problem
> for many people we can put a copy of the ontologies into kdelibs. But as
> I said before: this was in the feature plan and has been for a long time.
> 
> I am sure nobody would say anything if I had not commited it in the last
> minute. But what is a date like the feature freeze good for if I cannot
> commit features until the last minute?

I would've still said something if a new dependency shows up with
basically no advance warning anywhere. (your blog post simply said 'soon
all copies will be removed and this will be a new dep', no mentioning of
an exact timeframe).

Andreas

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