KDE4 release discussion, Was: KIO::NetAccess static methods question

[Robert Knight]

> Install kdemultimedia/kmix and run kmix

I have a recent kmix from SVN and it needs work if mere mortals are to
use it.  On my system it creates a window 1.3x the height of my
1400x1050 screen filled with a vast number of audio controls.  The two
controls which matter to me (my main speaker and PCM) work but I
haven't tested anything else.  The tab name and window title are some
internal detail as well.

kmix under KDE 3 shows about 8 sliders lined up next to each other
with tabs to switch between groups of controls.

Screenshot of kmix under KDE 4 on my system here:
http://www.robertknight.me.uk/files/kde/kmix_svn_25_10_07.png

Regards,
Robert.

On 25/10/2007, Robert Knight <robertknight at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Install kdemultimedia/kmix and run kmix
>
> I have a recent kmix from SVN and it needs work if mere mortals are to
> use it.  On my system it creates a window 1.3x the height of my
> 1400x1050 screen filled with a vast number of audio controls.  The two
> controls which matter to me (my main speaker and PCM) work but I
> haven't tested anything else.  The tab name and window title are some
> internal detail as well.
>
> kmix under KDE 3 shows about 8 sliders lined up next to each other
> with tabs to switch between groups of controls.
>
> Screenshot of kmix under KDE 4 on my system attached.
>
> Regards,
> Robert.
>
> On 25/10/2007, Andreas Pakulat <apaku at gmx.de> wrote:
> > On 25.10.07 21:59:03, Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > > On Thursday 25 October 2007, Andreas Hartmetz wrote:
> > >
> > > > I think that everybody who listened to the hype will also listen when
> > tell
> > > > them that 4.0 is expected to be somewhat buggy. The hype never
> included
> > > > anything about bugs, so it's not even like we'd have to revoke
> previous
> > > > statements. As long as the worst problems get fixed quickly some users
> > may
> > > > even find it interesting to see what software that isn't 100% finished
> > > > looks like and watch the improvements :)
> > >
> > > I seriously doubt that.
> > > 4.0 sounds like finished.
> >
> > No it doesn't, not in the open source world. A .0 release (at least for
> > me) always means a few regressions, new bugs, some instabilities than
> > the last .x release.
> >
> > > We didn't mention bugs or an experimental release
> > > before,
> >
> > I personally always did and I've seen quite some posts that did so as
> > well, i.e. mentioning that KDE4.0 != KDE4 and that not everything from
> > the rock-stable KDE 3.5.x release survived/is finished porting.
> >
> > > so a real release which can be used (not necessarily
> > > in "enterprises") by home users and geeks is expected.
> >
> > I'd recommend 4.0 to geeks, not your usual home user.
> >
> > > There will also be blogs and reviews of the "stable" KDE 4.0 release by
> > people
> > > not pro-KDE. Imagine how they will react to an "experimental" release
> when
> > > they heard the hype all the time.
> > > Bad news damage much more than good news help.
> >
> > So what? If we delay the release for another 2-4 months those people
> > will bitch about KDE4 being a hype and never getting into reality. Don't
> > listen to them, there are always naysayers, let the marketing/publicity
> > people deal with these marketing/publicity issues. Lets concentrate on
> > getting the issues fixed and a release done.
> >
> > Andreas
> >
> > --
> > Your temporary financial embarrassment will be relieved in a surprising
> > manner.
> >
>