kde vs. locales

Thiago Macieira thiago at kde.org
Tue Nov 27 18:37:59 GMT 2007

Em Sunday 25 November 2007 17:35:21 Chusslove Illich escreveu:
> > [: Oswald Buddenhagen :]
> > anyway, that's not what i was talking about. one might want
> > rest - this isn't even far from what i have currently.
> One possibility would be to simply allow user in KCM to set not only
> LC_ALL, but also these partials. But I feel that's a bit too much for the
> GUI. If you want these strange combos, then "shell" it :) (note that e.g.
> your paper format would be US Letter with this...)
> On the other hand, if one would only want special LC_MESSAGES, that's
> covered by the languages override, through LANGUAGE.

I guess this is becoming far too complicated. Even your "Override" options 
seemed complicated to me.

Looking at the KCM, I'd expect to be able to choose my locale (my language) 
and be able to fine-tune some things. We can even allow choosing a different 
locale for the individual settings, or we can go straight to editing the 

I'm considering my use-case here: I like my desktop in Brazilian Portuguese, 
which means messages, dates and times, collation, measurement, etc. should be 
in that. However, I am living in Norway, so I want to switch the monetary 
information to Norway's.

You could argue that I'm creating locale pt_NO...

So, I don't think we need an "Override" checkbox. I keep my position as 

 - in the absence of specific configuration, KDE inherits the system-provided 

 - if the user comes into the KCM and chooses a locale, write the LC_* 
settings to ~/.i18n

 - if the user fine-tunes any setting, write the formatting for that group to 
the ~/.i18n file as well (shell variables, properly prefixed)

 - startkde sources $KDEDIRS/share/config/i18n and ~/.i18n if present

Consequence: the locales are no longer a Kiosk-protected, cascading KConfig 

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