[patch] Grab windows anywhere, not just titlebar

Lubos Lunak l.lunak at suse.cz
Thu Nov 22 15:08:30 GMT 2007

On Thursday 22 of November 2007, Riccardo Iaconelli wrote:
> On Friday 09 November 2007 17:21:38 Lubos Lunak wrote:
> >  Where exactly is the absolutely killer feature I don't see?
> What, visual differences aren't killer features anymore? What is all the
> Plasma and Oxygen stuff about then? ;-)

 I don't consider a visual difference done just for the sake of a visual 
difference a killer feature, not even close (well, depends on the meaning of 
killer, too). I don't see what should be so cool about doing things 
differently just because one can.

> Seriously, what is also the big feature, probably just visually, is that
> the window is not perceived as being one: it does not have a entry in the
> titlebar

 Taskbar? Modal dialogs in KDE don't (shouldn't) have taskbar entries.

> , it's is *sticked* to the main window

 Which may be a problem if you happen to need to look at something in the main 

> ... meaning that when the  
> window minimizes the sheet does also, when the window moves the sheet
> smoothly remain at its place...It's not really the same thing that we have
> now.

 But we can, it's as simple as somebody adding both of these to KWin.

> They can also automatically disappear if showing e.g. a progressbar.

 A sheet, i.e. a modal dialog, disappearing just because a progressbar shows? 
I must be misunderstanding this.

> Also, there cannot be more than one sheet piling toghether at a time...

 I suppose this has nothing to do with the visual appearance or the other 

> In the end it's different, we don't have such a thing yet, not even a
> similar one. =)

 Besides a modal dialog?

> If you want another example it might be similar to some modal dialogs there
> are in some web 2.0 apps... that's probably the best way I can explain
> it... if you want to figure out better, please try out a mac into a near
> computer reseller. ;-)

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