Redefining kdelibs and kdebase
jowenn at kde.org
Sun Aug 28 09:43:13 BST 2005
I'm not that sure that restricting apps to use a standard dialog is the way to
go, which would be the result if you have an out of process generic file or
print dialog. There are cases where you need to have more control over the
widgets even in a standard dialog. Eg. it would be very bad if kate runs in
in GNOME and you can't choose the encoding of the file to open or load. In
other applications (ok, it kate too) there is also a need for additional
settings in the print dialog, it would be very hard to support that with a
gnome or windows print dialog. Even a lot of native windows applications
(think about graphic applications) don't use the default windows printing
dialog but there own specialised one.
The point is, why do we have to limit KDE with generic support for other
deskops ? Who is maintaining the wrappers around gtk, windows, cocoa ? Do we
have to do that ourselves ?
Another thing to consider, face it our main platform is X11 and/or embedded.
That's about 80% or even more. I don't think we should limit KDE to comfort
20% even less. We should try to be consistent within our DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT,
not consistent with every broken GUI toolkit. I don't say we should make it
extremly hard for others who really want to use native windows or macos
ports, but I do think, we should not restrict ourselves because of such
Even if we would use windows dialogs or gtk dialogs or ....., we still would
not fit in because of the different HIGs.
KDE is a Desktop Environment, not a simple Qt extension. If Trolltech really
wants to use KDE dialogs they could write their own layer and use the static
methods we already have for their purposes. The only really hindering thing
is KApplication, which should be solvable by moving most things out of their
into a singleton.
If we restrict ourselves to a bare minimum of features, we would remove all
our distinguishing features. So what's the reason to install KDE at all (for
a user or distribution) ?
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