Thoughts on the systray II.

[Lubos Lunak]

On Monday 18 of April 2005 20:48, Fred Schaettgen wrote:
> On Monday, 18. April 2005 17:34, Lubos Lunak wrote:
> ..
>
> > >   What do you suggest for KWallet?  It's important to know that a
> > > wallet is open.  Likewise for the print manager...
>
> ...
>
> >  Hmm. Both KWallet and the print manager look like a mixture of 1),
> > because there's a mainwindow, and 3), because it's a bit like
> > notification, to me. But the mainwindow and the whole app can go away
> > when being idle, so that's not exactly like 1), and the notification
> > should stay there the whole time if I get it right, so it's not exactly
> > like 3). (Just to make sure: By notification here I think the special
> > area in kicker where all pending notifications would be queued, as I
> > suggested in my first mail.)
>
> I don't understand the exact meaning of "notification". How is the kwallet
> icon a notification? Are you talking about a state indicator (wallet is
> open) or an event notification (wallet was opened)?

 Notification is "something has just happened". Which is also the reason why I 
have those few lines above have a problem with representing a state like 
that.

> Isn't it possible to 
> display each and every state indicator as a window with a corresponding
> taskbar item? KNotify is only about events currently. Do you want knotify
> to display states, too?

 No, probably not.

> Wouldn't it be better to give regular window more 
> possibilities to display a compact representation of their current state in
> their taskbar item

 That could be done, yes. Although I think just the demand attention state and 
the window icon are enough. What more do you think could be useful?

> and use knotify only for events? 
> This way the state indicator and the taskbar item for an application would
> stay at the same place. Also taskbar items display various application
> states already (application is running, currently open file is ...), so
> having a separate state indicator area would make sense only for states
> which don't correspond to anything we can show a window for - and I can't
> imagine what that could be.

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Lubos Lunak
KDE developer
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