Thoughts on the systray II.

[Lubos Lunak]

On Saturday 16 of April 2005 01:31, George Staikos wrote:
> On Friday 15 April 2005 12:46, Lubos Lunak wrote:
> > 2) converting applet-like systray apps to real applets. Aaron had some
> > issues with this because of having bad nightmares about XEmbed, so this
> > needs more discussion, the remaining complains can be basically solved by
> > saying "so that needs fixing/improving" if my memory serves me well.
>
>    Discussions about these two at xdevconf seemed to show that everyone
> there interested agreed.

 Aaron wasn't here :). And he doesn't seem to think converting the 2) kind of 
systray apps to applet is a good idea.

> > 4) not using the systray for daemons, quick access and such stuff,
> > instead simply not having any GUI for those, or using applets/whatever.
> > I'm not actually sure what was the opinion on this.
>
>   What do you suggest for KWallet?  It's important to know that a wallet is
> open.  Likewise for the print manager...

 Honestly, I don't know. Unlike Aaron, I don't want just to solve the "systray 
mechanism sucks" problem, I also want to solve the "systray concept sucks" 
problem. That's why I try to split the random mess there's currently in the 
systray into several consistent groups. Well, see my answer to Aaron.

 Hmm. Both KWallet and the print manager look like a mixture of 1), because 
there's a mainwindow, and 3), because it's a bit like notification, to me. 
But the mainwindow and the whole app can go away when being idle, so that's 
not exactly like 1), and the notification should stay there the whole time if 
I get it right, so it's not exactly like 3). (Just to make sure: By 
notification here I think the special area in kicker where all pending 
notifications would be queued, as I suggested in my first mail.)

 And the problem here is that I'd want to separate areas "my hidden apps are 
here" and "notifications are here". But KWallet or the print manager kind of 
fit in both. Maybe they could go to 1), but I'm really unsure now.

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Lubos Lunak
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