Apollon soon in kde-extragear

[Scott Wheeler]

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On Tuesday 10 February 2004 2:41, Martin Köbele wrote:

> > It's also of note that copying CDs is legal; distribution of them is not. 
>
> why is it legal? CDs are copyrighted!! 
> later you say:

> > This is naive.  Making copies of copyrighted material is illegal in most
> > western countries. 
> 
> This is a contradiction.  
> Copying is copying. Because of the paragraph which allows you to make
> personal copies of CDs you're allowed to download. (German UrhG: §53).

Yes, sorry -- I should have worded that differently, but the point is still 
valid.  According to the Audio Home Recording Act in the United States 
copying CDs or other audio formats for personal use and without 
redistribution is legal.

Copying copyrighted material that you have not purchased or been assigned 
appropriate rights for is illegal.

So essentially:  no -- copying is not copying.

> not yet happened from the Apollon side? Thanks.
> Two weeks ago I held a seminar-presentation about the Copyright-law.
> That's where I have my knowledge from. I read books to find something 
> especially about the p2p-topic. And now I have to hear that?

That's nice, but the primary difference was that the KMLDonkey authors 
acknowledged that this *is* a legal gray area and tried to explain why they 
thought it was safe enough for KDE.  By contrast you've repeated there is no 
issue; everything is completely safe, etc.  That simply is not true.

> Do you think I invented my email? Or what? How can you judge that everything 
> I wrote is "irrelevant"?

I didn't mean that as insulting -- the things that I flagged as "irrelevant" 
were moral arguments, not legal ones and I'm not particularly interested in a 
moral debate.

- -Scott

- -- 
The three chief virtues of a programmer are: laziness, impatience and hubris.
- --Larry Wall
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