Apollon soon in kde-extragear

[Klas Kalass]

Am Dienstag, 10. Februar 2004 01:53 schrieb Martin Köbele:
> > > Same with downloading copyrighted material via a p2p-program, or http,
> > > or ftp, whatever. Downloading is not illegal.
> >
> > If by illegal, you mean 'you can be sued', you're totally wrong.
>
> Then explain it yourself. Sued by who? Only a legal person would sue you
> anyways, but not the attorney, crown/federal prosecutor or however he is
> called.
>
> > > There is even no law which says that it's forbidden to possess copies
> > > of copyrighted material! You're even allowed to listen to the mp3s.
> >
> > Wrong. Look at, for instance, the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act
> > (1988) in the UK for an example. You're not allowed to 'possess or deal
> > with an infringing copy'.
>
> At least in Germany, you are allowed to possess copies of copyrighted
> material.
Which Law? Which Paragraph?

> > > On Tuesday 10 February 2004 00:19, Dominique Devriese wrote:
> > > >"Maybe a prominent notice could be put in place in the
> > > >program saying that usage of the program is to the user's own risk,
> > > >and that (s)he should always check the legality of the downloaded
> > > >content ?"
> > >
> > > It's not in the downloader's responsibility to check that. It is the
> > > uploader who might break the law, if he shares copyrighted material.
> >
> > That's wrong. Whenever you tell your computer to make a copy of a song,
> > or whatever, it's *your* responsibility to make sure that you're allowed
> > to make a copy. You are the one copying it from their computer to your
> > hard drive. And even if they send you it, you are the one copying it from
> > the network to your harddrive.
>
> The uploaders allows you to copy it and the uploader publishes it.
> The german copyright law allows you to make copies for your personal and
> private use. So again, it's up to the user.
copies as in physical copies. But that law is outdated anyways, AFAIK now you 
are only allowed if there is no sort of copy-protection....