Apollon soon in kde-extragear

Martin Köbele martin at mkoebele.de
Tue Feb 10 00:53:47 GMT 2004


> > Same with downloading copyrighted material via a p2p-program, or http, or
> > ftp, whatever. Downloading is not illegal.
>
> If by illegal, you mean 'you can be sued', you're totally wrong.
Then explain it yourself. Sued by who? Only a legal person would sue you 
anyways, but not the attorney, crown/federal prosecutor or however he is 
called.


> > There is even no law which says that it's forbidden to possess copies of
> > copyrighted material! You're even allowed to listen to the mp3s.
>
> Wrong. Look at, for instance, the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act (1988)
> in the UK for an example. You're not allowed to 'possess or deal with an
> infringing copy'.

At least in Germany, you are allowed to possess copies of copyrighted 
material. 


> > Imho, there are more people looking at porn-pages than people using
> > p2p-software. And you don't tell those: "hey dude, that's dirty!".
>
> Dirty? Not for me to say. But in many countries, no-one can sue you for it.
Who talked about getting sued? This comparison with porn pages was made, 
because I said before that you can't be sued because you download and you 
can't be sued because of looking at porn.

>
> > On Tuesday 10 February 2004 00:19, Dominique Devriese wrote:
> > >"Maybe a prominent notice could be put in place in the
> > >program saying that usage of the program is to the user's own risk,
> > >and that (s)he should always check the legality of the downloaded
> > >content ?"
> >
> > It's not in the downloader's responsibility to check that. It is the
> > uploader who might break the law, if he shares copyrighted material.
>
> That's wrong. Whenever you tell your computer to make a copy of a song, or
> whatever, it's *your* responsibility to make sure that you're allowed to
> make a copy. You are the one copying it from their computer to your hard
> drive. And even if they send you it, you are the one copying it from the
> network to your harddrive.

The uploaders allows you to copy it and the uploader publishes it. 
The german copyright law allows you to make copies for your personal and 
private use. So again, it's up to the user.


Martin




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