As discussed in the kde-optimized list all the makefiles in kde cvs must have the -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION flag, because it saves 2 methods for each QObject derived class that are not used anyway. i'm surprised it hasn't been done before. This is done in kdelibs safely. I'm too scared about autoconf/automake to send a patch, sorry. -- Jordi Polo www.bluesock.net