MEta-data in Konqueror file tooltips

Daniel Stone dstone at
Sat May 3 13:47:48 BST 2003

On Sat, May 03, 2003 at 02:36:40PM +0200, Martijn Klingens wrote:
> On Friday 02 May 2003 12:20, David Faure wrote:
> > Yes, something like that - although some people might even want to get
> > metadata over SMB etc.? This is again a matter of defining "fast enough".
> > Maybe the solution is to use the same config as the "list of protocols from
> > which to get thumbnails", after renaming that list to something more
> > general.
> "fast enough" for me is my local LAN, since 100mbit is fast enough. Internet 
> however is not.

"Fast enough" is, sadly, not the only consideration; living in Australia
will certainly give you an appreciation of the cost of bandwidth. :)

> In offices with multiple subnets (like at my work) that's still hard to get 
> right without config option, and if your internet connection is fast enough 
> you may even want to enable meta data and thumbnails over the internet.

I had machines that were physically 10m away, but about 7 hops and an
SSH tunnel, routing-wise, at my last job, and worse.

> In general there are three factors that determine the "fast enough", besides 
> the amount of patience of the user:
> - The amount of hops the server is away (generally higher latency even if the
>   overall speed is high)

There can also be "hidden hops", e.g. tunneling in IPv6, PPPoE,

> - The amount of bandwidth your connection has (LAN is fast, but internet
>   usually isn't fast enough)

Not as much your bandwidth, but the lowest common denominator. For
instance, at school, my bandwidth is 100MBit, intra-school, and to a
couple of other nearby institutions, but a shared 128kb link with woeful
packet loss.

> - The size of the files (thumbnail previews and meta data for a 20kb readme
>   file are very welcome even over my ADSL link, but for files that are larger
>   I surely don't want them eating my bandwidth)

Yes, indeed.

> Now, with all the above in mind: would there be ways to make previews and meta 
> data be available more clever and also work over the network, but ONLY if the 
> network is considered "fast enough" ?

I'd personally disable them by default, and maybe have an RMB "View
Thumbnails" action item for all non-local IO slaves, but a) that's just
me, and b) the RMB menu is already pretty cluttered.

My biggest concern is exceeding my monthly download quota because I used
Konq on remote FTP/SMB a lot.

Daniel Stone 	     <daniel at>             <dstone at>
KDE: Konquering a desktop near you -
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