Australian representative?

[Don Sanders]

On Tuesday 15 July 2003 16:00, Ralf Nolden wrote:
> On Friday 11 July 2003 10:29, Don Sanders wrote:
> > On Monday 07 July 2003 17:41, Lauri Watts wrote:
> > > On Friday 04 July 2003 14.17, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > > > Hi guys,
> > > > Sirtaj (taj at k.o), has been in Delhi for quite some time, and
> > > > will continue to be, instead of in Australia. Because of
> > > > this, he got changed to an Asian representative, rather than
> > > > the Australian rep. This means we've got no-one left in
> > > > Australia!
> > > >
> > > > Around the time my -c-d post access was revoked,
> > >
> > > Due to your own bad behaviour including an apparent inability
> > > to make a post without filling it with swearing and ad hominem
> > > attacks.
> > >
> > > > my status as a .au
> > > > representative also got revoked by a member of the web team.
> > >
> > > s/member of the web team/active and valued developer/
> > > After having been added arbitrarily, and removed not without at
> > > least tacit and some cases explicit approval by many other
> > > people.
> > >
> > > > I handled a
> > > > few cases, and did so quite well, IMHO; as it stands, we have
> > > > no representatives for a country of 19 million, so I'm
> > > > perfectly willing to go back on the list, if there are no
> > > > objections.
> > >
> > > And if there are objections?
> > >
> > > Daniel, you seem to have the idea that I dislike you
> > > personally. This isn't true. I've tried to come up with a way
> > > to say the following politely, and this is the best I can do.
> > >
> > > I don't think your behaviour historically on these
> > > very-publicly archived lists and other public forums is the
> > > kind of behaviour I wish to see identified as 'representative
> > > of KDE.'  I think we have some time to go before you've earnt
> > > back the goodwill you may have had previously with many of us. 
> > > I think KDE is currently better off without an Australian
> > > representative at all, than one who has a public persona that
> > > could cause us to be taken less than seriously.
> >
> > After talking to Daniel on freenode I would like to register my
> > interest in becoming the KDE representative for Australia (or
> > Oceania).
> >
> > I'm not sure if I'm willing/able/wanted to do the job. If it's
> > just a case of being a person that people interested in KDE can
> > talk to I should be able to handle that fine. At least I'm
> > willing/able to do that for one year but I'd prefer the position
> > to put up for election or made available to others after one
> > year.
> >
> > So if it's desirable to have an Australia/Oceania representative
> > I'm interested, if KDE is interested in having me perform the
> > role then could the appropriate person please send me a follow up
> > email.
>
> Could you get arranged with Daniel ? If we have two people for the
> same job then the easiest thing to do is not to let any animosities
> or personal preferences of others to decide who will actually do
> the job.
>
> You could e.g. suggest you would do this this year and let Daniel
> help you or get him involved for taking over the task next  year;
> whatever you agree on.

I actually talked with DanielS on freenode before offering my 
services. It was actually he that suggested I apply for the position.

I didn't apply before talking to DanielS as I, like you, assumed that 
it would result in animosity. But Daniel's logic is that it was bad 
for KDE to have no .au representative and I as representative was 
better than none.

I actually get the feeling that Daniel's explanation of not realizing 
kde-core is archived is an honest explanation. Personally I often 
prefer freenode discussions rather than mailing list ones mainly 
because of the lack of (public) archiving.

Don.