Marc.Mutz at uni-bielefeld.de
Thu Sep 19 00:07:47 BST 2002
On Wednesday 18 September 2002 23:02, Martijn Klingens wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 September 2002 21:34, Marc Mutz wrote:
> > Yet, this doesn't solve the problem at all. We have two
> > people fighting for maintainership. One of them is accepted by the
> > vast majority of developers, the other one is a valueable KMail
> > developer that would be bad to lose, but who doesn't want anybody
> > else but him maintaining KMail.
> I actually see two of those. Neither Michael nor Don seem to allow
> the 'other' to be maintaining KMail. Michael isn't behaving a single
> bit better than Don in this dispute.
You overlook one thing:
No-one thinks Michael isn't doing a good job.
No-one sees a need for a maintainer change.
From my POV, this should settle the issue.
Yet, every few days - just when you think it's finally settled - the
maintainership discussion is being brought up anew - and not by
Now, how should he react? Step back from being maintainer? Why?
Everybody seemed to agree he should be doing the job. There was no
disconcert about that that I know of - except for Don.
Has it come so far that begin stubborn long enough opens you every door
in KDE just because people get so annoyed they grant you everything you
wish if you would just stop that, thanks? What if someone stands up and
challenges Dirk's position as release dude? Almost everybody would
agree that Dirk is doing the job fine and that he should keep doing it.
Now, what if that someone brings this issue up every few days for
weeks? If he starts comitting to the release plan, replacing Dirk's
name with his own, changing the schedule?
Would not everyone agree that Dirk has all the right to stay release
dude? Would you call Dirk stubborn if he did? Would you also call for
removing the position of release dude because Dirk did not step back
when having the vast majority of developers behind him?
> For the longer term (3.2) I am really looking forward to a change to
> the ueber-conservative route that KMail has taken the last few
> releases. Here Don's make_it_cool branch is looking incredibly
Suddenly everyone comes 'round the corner and tells you what a fucking
bullshit you have produced for the last few releases. Nice. :-(
I know the KMail developers are considered a curious bunch of bastards
in some corners of the KDE universe, thanks for reminding me.
Nie wird so viel gelogen wie vor der Wahl, während des Kriegs und nach
der Jagd -- Otto von Bismarck
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