Marc Mutz Marc.Mutz at uni-bielefeld.de
Thu Sep 19 00:07:47 BST 2002

On Wednesday 18 September 2002 23:02, Martijn Klingens wrote:
> On Wednesday 18 September 2002 21:34, Marc Mutz wrote:
> > Yet, this doesn't solve the problem at all. We have two
> > people fighting for maintainership. One of them is accepted by the
> > vast majority of developers, the other one is a valueable KMail
> > developer that would be bad to lose, but who doesn't want anybody
> > else but him maintaining KMail.
> I actually see two of those. Neither Michael nor Don seem to allow
> the 'other' to be maintaining KMail. Michael isn't behaving a single
> bit better than Don in this dispute.

You overlook one thing:
No-one thinks Michael isn't doing a good job.
No-one sees a need for a maintainer change.

From my POV, this should settle the issue.
Yet, every few days - just when you think it's finally settled - the 
maintainership discussion is being brought up anew - and not by 

Now, how should he react? Step back from being maintainer? Why? 
Everybody seemed to agree he should be doing the job. There was no 
disconcert about that that I know of - except for Don.

Has it come so far that begin stubborn long enough opens you every door 
in KDE just because people get so annoyed they grant you everything you 
wish if you would just stop that, thanks? What if someone stands up and 
challenges Dirk's position as release dude? Almost everybody would 
agree that Dirk is doing the job fine and that he should keep doing it. 
Now, what if that someone brings this issue up every few days for 
weeks? If he starts comitting to the release plan, replacing Dirk's 
name with his own, changing the schedule?

Would not everyone agree that Dirk has all the right to stay release 
dude? Would you call Dirk stubborn if he did? Would you also call for 
removing the position of release dude because Dirk did not step back 
when having the vast majority of developers behind him?

> For the longer term (3.2) I am really looking forward to a change to
> the ueber-conservative route that KMail has taken the last few
> releases. Here Don's make_it_cool branch is looking incredibly
> exciting.

Suddenly everyone comes 'round the corner and tells you what a fucking 
bullshit you have produced for the last few releases. Nice. :-(

I know the KMail developers are considered a curious bunch of bastards 
in some corners of the KDE universe, thanks for reminding me.


Nie wird so viel gelogen wie vor der Wahl, während des Kriegs und nach
der Jagd                                          -- Otto von Bismarck
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