Things needed (was: Re: Do we really need Korn ?)

[Andy Fawcett]

On Saturday 27 April 2002 12:29, Ralf Nolden wrote:

[lots snipped, only answering some right now]

> Ok, some things about that now and other stuff related to that. The
> point why korn is pretty useless

korn is not "pretty useless".

> is that there are people like me who
> are too stupid (or lazy) to fiddle with fetchmail or just any
> commandline tool to set up their machine. Korn just allows to set
> your mailbox, but that's it. It requires a backend that fetches the
> mail, right ?

I use it *purely* as a mail notification utility. I use kmail to fetch 
the mail.

It doesn't need fetchmail, or anything else. For POP3, all that is 
needed is to open a connection to the server, issue one command, close 
the connection, and display the count. I presume IMAP and local 
mailboxes are the same.

I've not looked at how it's implemented. It could use direct 
connections, it could use ioslaves, I really don't know.

But, it's low footprint, and does what I want.

I'm not saying that the same or similar functionality shouldn't be built 
into kmail, but I think that it would be better to improve korn so that 
it does the same as currently, but with some sort of interface directly 
to kmail to improve efficiency in collecting mail.

Of course, the other advantage of korn being separate is that it is 
usable with other mail clients. Not everyone who uses KDE uses kmail, 
and it can be set up to call up mutt in a konsole session if that's 
what floats your boat.

I have this strange feeling that you really should investigate korn 
more, because from what I have seen in your comments so far, you've not 
actually used it more than one failed attempt. To quote: "tried it once 
but couldn't do anything with it, I just use email on pop3".

That's hardly a valid reason to call it "pretty useless" Ralf, I would 
expect better from you. If you need help in setting it up to try it, I 
would be happy to give you a 2 minute tutorial on IRC one day.

To reiterate, korn needs *nothing* else in order to be usable as a mail 
notification utility.

A.

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