Fwd: Re: Application duplication (was: Re: cdbakeoven)

Christoph Cullmann crossfire at babylon2k.de
Sat Apr 20 11:41:36 BST 2002


On Saturday 20 April 2002 11:55, David Faure wrote:
> On Saturday 20 April 2002 11:25, Lubos Lunak wrote:
> >  These four editors are Kate, KWrite, KEdit and the fourth one is most
> > probably XEdit from kappfinder. KWrite should be probably wiped out
> > immediatelly (IIRC it was left just for backwards compatibility), XEdit
> > could be probably wiped out too, or at least moved in a submenu or a
> > different menu (I don't believe anybody uses this thing anyway, IMHO
> > kappfinder could just simply ignore it instead of having .desktop file
> > for every crappy and obsolete piece of software it finds). KEdit from
> > kdeutils also probably doesn't have many users as Kate is the preffered
> > editor, and I don't see what it can do and Kate can't (well, besides
> > starting faster, but there can be certainly done something about this).
>
> Ok for getting rid of XEdit (no doubt!), and maybe kedit, but we do need at
> least kwrite and kate (same codebase anyway!). I don't need a full-fledged
> kate (with the sidebar, the plugins etc. etc.) just to view the source of
> an HTML page, or type "Hello world" in a file. "Simple" text editors are
> always needed, and IMHO we really have a good solution with kate+kwrite,
> that's no code duplication (no doubling efforts etc.) since they share the
> same codebase. So the user still has to choose between the fast-and-simple
> kwrite and the bigger-and-more-featureful kate, but since people were
> comparing to Windows: even Windows has two plain text editors.
> No, KWrite was not only kept for compatibility. At least I really hope so.
We kept KWrite mostly because of 3 reasons:
- some users like it
- it's fast on starting & small, just as you said, for the quick opening of 
one or two files it just rules
- it is one cpp file (with it's header), around 20kb source code, which is 
mostly a loader for the kate part from kdelibs, nothing more (and if somebody 
calls that code duplication, we must trash the kpart's model, as loader apps 
for a specific task won't ever be much smaller ;)

cu
Christoph

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