The status of freenode (the IRC network used by KDE)
kde at fuchsnet.ch
Wed May 26 07:20:15 BST 2021
Dear KDE community,
it appears that over night, the now new management of freenode started to
revenge-ban former staff from their servers, therefore I am now unable to
connect to freenode and connect to / help out with KDE there.
They also post heavily cropped private chatlogs on their blog so that they
push their views. https://freenode.net/news/for-foss
full chat log at the bottom of the mail, since the cropped part was released
without me being asked, I have to assume it's fine to release the rest as
In addition to that, former official channels from projects that moved to a
different place were taken over by the new management.
I've been asked in a KDE channel by a member on why I suggest moving, so:
yeah, this is it. Seizing official channels you do not represent and banning
members of the community for no reason other than revenge, even though I am
obviously biased, I really think this is the kind of place that FLOSS projects
On more positive sidenotes: We had a very constructive chat with Matrix folk
earlier this week and are now building up stuff to allow briding, so should
KDE want to move over, we'd hopefully soon have a Matrix (and thus also
Telegram) bridge available.
Kind regards and thanks for the decade of support on freenode,
Full chatlog that got croppedly released by Andrew Lee.
As usual, people are free to make up their own opinion if they have the full
information, and not just bits and pieces.
[19:45:43] <rasengan> Hey there, please join #freenode-board -- this is an
official message sent in my capacity as the owner of Freenode. Additionally,
if you can please use my gpg key and share with me all of the credentials of
Freenode. Thank you in advance. Just to be clear, this is an official
message from the ownership of Freenode.
[21:05:30] <rasengan> Hi Fuchs, do you have plans to comply? This is an
official request from the Freenode Board
[21:15:32] <Fuchs> well, good evening, "sole board member and chairman of
[21:15:49] <Fuchs> I assume that didn't go exactly as you planned when you
unleashed your bloodhounds, and when you called for my resignation
[21:16:20] <Fuchs> free tip for next time: money might buy you domains or
assets, but it will never buy you the right people, it will never buy you true
loyality and, most importantly, it will never buy you a community
[21:16:49] <Fuchs> go and build one, with dedication and hard work. Good luck.
[21:17:54] <rasengan> ?
[21:19:01] <rasengan> Fuchs, you know very well my support for FOSS has been
strong, what happened here, and why.
[21:19:16] <Fuchs> trivial:
[21:19:35] <Fuchs> you sent your bloodhound lawyers after a well respected
community member, after _you_ misunderstood blog posts and resignation letters
[21:19:45] <Fuchs> I know christel already corrected you on your gist, shame
you never updated that
[21:19:57] <Fuchs> I assume by now you also know that there never was a
"merger" between OFTC and freenode planned
[21:20:01] <rasengan> You are very incorrect Fuchs.
[21:20:11] <rasengan> Secondly, you sent your mob on me.
[21:20:19] <Fuchs> and then you tried to throw out respected members of the
community, and you replaced them with people that have 0 credibility in the
FOSS world, in some cases even a negative one
[21:20:21] <rasengan> The same mob you leashed on others and I, now I know I
was wrong to, protected you.
[21:20:25] <rasengan> I can't believe why you're doing this.
[21:20:33] <Fuchs> then you really can't be helped, I guess
[21:20:36] <Fuchs> good luck in your reality
[21:20:51] <Fuchs> and enjoy the scorched earth and smoking ruins and ashes
that you inherited, killer of IRC
[21:21:02] <rasengan> Fuchs, you are wrong to speak ill of the new freenode
[21:21:08] <rasengan> They've done quite a bit for FOSS and are respectable
[21:21:11] <rasengan> Attack me all you want.
[21:21:17] <rasengan> Not the volunteers. Fair?
[21:21:39] <Fuchs> Oh, I don't attack them. The community already has spoken
on them, I'm rather sure, from the logs I have
[21:21:46] <Fuchs> and I don't attack you either
[21:21:52] <Fuchs> I explain to you what you seem to not want to understand
[21:21:55] <rasengan> But, can you personally refrain from propelling
negativity toward the team members?
[21:22:15] <Fuchs> if you prefer ingorance: go ahead, and watch the rest of
the communities, projects and sponsors leave you as well. And keep asking
[21:22:23] <Fuchs> you went after my friends, Andrew
[21:22:26] <rasengan> In the meantime, let me try to save freenode. If you
want to come back in the future let me know. I can forgive you, honestly.
[21:22:32] <Fuchs> what I did here was way more friendlynes than you deserve
[21:22:43] <rasengan> Thank you for that.
[21:22:47] <Fuchs> if you don't want it: fine. Good luck, king of the scorched
earth that once was freenode.
[21:23:00] <Fuchs> haha, _you_ forgiving _me_, that's gold
[21:23:11] <Fuchs> good luck then, I shall leave you alone and go build
[21:23:27] <rasengan> I do forgive you.
[21:23:35] <rasengan> And I also hope for the best for Libera.
[21:23:37] <rasengan> Cheers.
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