KDE now has its own Matrix infrastructure

Laszlo Papp lpapp at kde.org
Wed Feb 20 12:48:07 GMT 2019

I have the same concerns as Christian.

1. We used to run internal Nokia IRC servers professionally for a long
time, so does Mozilla, etc.

2. I also do not understand the insecure claims.

3. As a matter of personal preference, I like some non-modern features
better than modern.

I am not against having Matrix as well in communities like this, but if the
uninitiated reads this about IRC, they are badly mislead.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 12:43 PM Christian Loosli <kde at fuchsnet.ch> wrote:

> Am Mittwoch, 20. Februar 2019, 13:36:37 CET schrieb Paul Brown:
> > Hi all,
> Hi Paul,
> > KDE has been looking for a better way of chatting and live-sharing of
> > information for several years now. IRC has been a good solution for a
> long
> > time, but has centralized servers KDE cannot control, it is also insecure
> beg your pardon? Neither is true. IRC is decentralized, and whilst KDE has
> no
> control over the freenode servers (obviously), it would have been free to
> have
> their own. From what I gather the KDE matrix instance is sponsored and not
> full control either.
> I'd also like to know how IRC is "insecure", in general and also in
> contrast
> to Matrix. Otherwise I kindly ask you to not throw such accusations
> without
> further explanation around.
> >     • Unlike IRC, Matrix is an entirely decentralised public network and
> > anyone can run a server.
> Again: that is simply wrong. IRC is decentralized, the protocol is
> entirely
> open and various ircds and services are open source, and everybody is able
> to
> run their own network.
> > So please head over to https://webchat.kde.org (or matrix.kde.org via
> any
> > other Matrix client!), grab an account and join #kde:kde.org.  For more
> > information, check out our Matrix wiki page which includes details on
> how to
> > configure desktop clients (https://community.kde.org/Matrix).
> > Let us know how you get on!
> Currently testing, I have > 1 minute loading times on searching and
> joining
> channels, and communicating with the appservice to change the IRC side
> nick or
> directly joining unlisted channels does not work (unfortunately no error
> message at all, so I can provide nothing to debug.
> > Cheers
> >
> > Paul
> Kind regards,
> Christian
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