[kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

Alexander Neundorf neundorf at kde.org
Tue May 17 21:06:30 BST 2016

On Monday 16 May 2016 23:37:17 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> On Montag, 16. Mai 2016 22:59:59 CEST you wrote:
> > Hi Thomas,
> > 
> > On Tuesday 10 May 2016 22:48:01 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 17:18:39 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > ...
> > 
> > > > Both positions are perfectly valid, of course. Now the problem is: How
> > > > can
> > > > we tell what KDE as a whole puts more emphasis on, when nobody but us
> > > > voices their opinion?
> > > 
> > > Maybe post to a few more mailing lists, e.g. kde-devel, plasma-devel,
> > > kde-
> > > core-devel, kde-frameworks-devel, is there a calligra-dvel ?
> > 
> > I have the impression this is not going well here.
> > How can we get more people to participate ?
> > Simply post to k-c-d and k-f-d ?
> > Or try with some controversial post ? ;-)
> Hi Alex,
> thank you for reminding me of the email I had been wanting to write today:
> To be honest, I don't think the reach of this mailing list is the problem.
> I've heard from quite a few people who have been following this discussion,
> but have not participated in it (for various reasons).
> Therefore, I changed plans. Instead of trying to get more people to
> participate in the discussion here, I will do what I'm trained to do: I'll
> conduct a survey.
> I think we've already come quite far with the draft and I don't think we
> need much more open discussion. We have a quite good draft, but in several
> points, we have your personal opinion against my personal opinion, and now
> I think the next step whould be to find out what the majority (especially
> the "silent majority") thinks.
> Tomorrow I will try to identify the points which are still contested (and
> I'm happy for you or others to contribute to that as well) and put them in
> a survey (along with those on which we agree, just to make sure the
> majority agrees with us as well) which I will spread via the Dot, this
> list, the ev- membership list and maybe kde-devel just to be sure.
> This survey will also invite people to join the mailing list discussion, but
> will primarily aim to just get numbers on those issues where we don't know
> what the majority thinks.
> While I'm confident that we have found a Vision which everybody agrees to, I
> feel that for some points of the Mission, we'll have to go with a majority
> vote, because there are competing standpoints which are both valid but
> cannot really be harmonized. On the other hand, I do not think the
> standpoints are so far apart that those who prefer the minority position
> would not be able to identify with the Mission as a whole anymore if we
> adopted the majority position.
> So, unless there are strong arguments against this approach, this is what I
> will do.

Sounds good, I'm happy to help.


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