[kde-community] KDE Mission - let's do this!

Thomas Pfeiffer thomas.pfeiffer at kde.org
Mon May 16 21:37:17 UTC 2016


On Montag, 16. Mai 2016 22:59:59 CEST you wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> 
> On Tuesday 10 May 2016 22:48:01 Alexander Neundorf wrote:
> > On Tuesday, May 10, 2016 17:18:39 Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> ...
> 
> > > Both positions are perfectly valid, of course. Now the problem is: How
> > > can
> > > we tell what KDE as a whole puts more emphasis on, when nobody but us
> > > voices their opinion?
> > 
> > Maybe post to a few more mailing lists, e.g. kde-devel, plasma-devel, kde-
> > core-devel, kde-frameworks-devel, is there a calligra-dvel ?
> 
> I have the impression this is not going well here.
> How can we get more people to participate ?
> Simply post to k-c-d and k-f-d ?
> Or try with some controversial post ? ;-)

Hi Alex,
thank you for reminding me of the email I had been wanting to write today:
To be honest, I don't think the reach of this mailing list is the problem. 
I've heard from quite a few people who have been following this discussion, 
but have not participated in it (for various reasons).
Therefore, I changed plans. Instead of trying to get more people to 
participate in the discussion here, I will do what I'm trained to do: I'll 
conduct a survey.

I think we've already come quite far with the draft and I don't think we need 
much more open discussion. We have a quite good draft, but in several points, 
we have your personal opinion against my personal opinion, and now I think the 
next step whould be to find out what the majority (especially the "silent 
majority") thinks.

Tomorrow I will try to identify the points which are still contested (and I'm 
happy for you or others to contribute to that as well) and put them in a 
survey (along with those on which we agree, just to make sure the majority 
agrees with us as well) which I will spread via the Dot, this list, the ev-
membership list and maybe kde-devel just to be sure.

This survey will also invite people to join the mailing list discussion, but 
will primarily aim to just get numbers on those issues where we don't know 
what the majority thinks. 

While I'm confident that we have found a Vision which everybody agrees to, I 
feel that for some points of the Mission, we'll have to go with a majority 
vote, because there are competing standpoints which are both valid but cannot 
really be harmonized. On the other hand, I do not think the standpoints are so 
far apart that those who prefer the minority position would not be able to 
identify with the Mission as a whole anymore if we adopted the majority 
position.

So, unless there are strong arguments against this approach, this is what I 
will do.

Cheers,
Thomas



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