[kde-community] user stats for Neon

David Edmundson david at davidedmundson.co.uk
Sat Apr 16 00:17:17 UTC 2016


On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Jonathan Riddell <jr at jriddell.org> wrote:

> A while ago Albert gave a talk at Akademy about collecting some data
> on our users.  This got me thinking and with Neon I wanted to see how
> many installs we had.  Our package install software will check for new
> versions being available and I could count the IPs of this check but
> that's very unreliable.  Canonical counts IPs from the NTP ping at
> boot up but of course it's only useful at best as a relative metric of
> numbers of installs not absolute numbers.  So I added a machine-id to
> the URL it checks which is the unique value set at install time by
> systemd (/etc/machine-id) so now it has a good idea of being able to
> count the number of installs.
>
>
To acomplish all the goals you've listed we don't need any UID at all.
If you want to count installs, change the client software to add a
parameter only on the first run and count that.


But KDE cares about privacy and it's in our Vision and I don't want to
> be accused of violating that.  But currently I can't see how this can
> violate users privacy any more than an IP address can so I'm curious
> to hear what arguments might come up against this.
>
> Jonathan
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