[kde-community] user stats for Neon

David Edmundson david at davidedmundson.co.uk
Sat Apr 16 01:17:17 BST 2016

On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 2:16 PM, Jonathan Riddell <jr at jriddell.org> wrote:

> A while ago Albert gave a talk at Akademy about collecting some data
> on our users.  This got me thinking and with Neon I wanted to see how
> many installs we had.  Our package install software will check for new
> versions being available and I could count the IPs of this check but
> that's very unreliable.  Canonical counts IPs from the NTP ping at
> boot up but of course it's only useful at best as a relative metric of
> numbers of installs not absolute numbers.  So I added a machine-id to
> the URL it checks which is the unique value set at install time by
> systemd (/etc/machine-id) so now it has a good idea of being able to
> count the number of installs.
To acomplish all the goals you've listed we don't need any UID at all.
If you want to count installs, change the client software to add a
parameter only on the first run and count that.

But KDE cares about privacy and it's in our Vision and I don't want to
> be accused of violating that.  But currently I can't see how this can
> violate users privacy any more than an IP address can so I'm curious
> to hear what arguments might come up against this.
> Jonathan
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