[kde-community] Kdetoys

[Jeremy Whiting]

Meh, no reason to wait 2 weeks if nobody has opposed. I discussed with
Stikonas the other day and he's ok with ktux going to unmaintained.
I'll ask for both ktux and amor to go there now.

thanks,
Jeremy

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 7:36 PM, Jeremy Whiting
<jeremypwhiting at gmail.com> wrote:
> Replying from the right from address so it won't stick in moderation... :)
>
> Ok kteatime is now safely in kdeutils. I spoke with stikonas on org a
> bit, he's fine with ktux going to unmaintained, many of the other
> screensavers are still in svn in kdeartwork. Maybe we should consider
> moving or removing those too? Is there a possibility of a new interest
> in screensavers for plasma media center when looking at television
> sets?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeremy
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:48 PM, Jeremy Whiting
> <jeremypwhiting at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Ok kteatime is now safely in kdeutils. I spoke with stikonas on org a bit,
>> he's fine with ktux going to unmaintained, many of the other screensavers
>> are still in svn in kdeartwork. Maybe we should consider moving or removing
>> those too? Is there a possibility of a new interest in screensavers for
>> plasma media center when looking at television sets?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jeremy
>>
>> On Aug 26, 2015 7:16 AM, "Jeremy Whiting" <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yep, I discussed a bit with stikonas on irc yesterday, I won't move it
>>> somewhere without his input for sure.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 6:47 AM, Luigi Toscano <luigi.toscano at tiscali.it>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Jeremy Whiting ha scritto:
>>> >> Hello all,
>>> >>
>>> >> tldr, should we kill kdetoys?
>>> >>
>>> >> As Applications 15.08 has been released I thought I'd take a look at
>>> >> which of our applications still need to be ported to Qt5/kf5. I did a
>>> >> diff of what we released in the 15.08 release vs what is already kf5
>>> >> based and got this result: https://paste.kde.org/prbvha5kh#line-13 <--
>>> >> paste should stay for a year. Items with + are not Qt5/kf5 based yet
>>> >> or weren't in the 15.08 release. Christoph Feck has a more detailed
>>> >> list that includes Extragear, but isn't organized by KDE Module here:
>>> >> http://developer.kde.org/~cfeck/portingstatus.html .
>>> >
>>> > Historical note: when kdetoys programs were migrated from SVN to GIT and
>>> > split
>>> > (two years ago), the second part of the plan was to kill the module,
>>> > move amor
>>> > to kdegames, ktux to kdeartwork and kteatime in kdeutils.
>>> >
>>> >> I took a quick stab at porting amor to Qt5/kf5 and it shouldn't be too
>>> >> hard, but the question is should it be ported at all? The previous
>>> >> maintainer hasn't touched it in quite some time. The code is X11
>>> >> specific, and the whole concept won't work on Wayland anyway because
>>> >> windows don't know about each other and can't position themselves.
>>> >
>>> > No real opinion.
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> KTux has been ported to Qt5/kf5 but I don't see any way in plasma 5 to
>>> >> make it the screensaver. We only support images in the lock screen and
>>> >> kwin will only support the greeter used in
>>> >> plasma-workspace/ksmserver/screenlocker so if you run it it shows a
>>> >> nice window of tux flying around, but I don't think that's useful in
>>> >> today's screensaver less world somehow.
>>> >
>>> > That's not true, we support animated wallpapers as screenlockers and we
>>> > should
>>> > provide more documentation on how to create them. When I pinged Andrius
>>> > Štikonas, who did the port, he said that he could try to see if ktux can
>>> > be
>>> > changed into an animated wallpaper (with no guarantees due to other
>>> > duties).
>>> > He just finished the port, give him some time... or at least please ask
>>> > him.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> KTeatime may still be useful, but if we are cleaning out kdetoys,
>>> >> maybe it should be moved to kdeutils so it isn't the lone application
>>> >> in a module?
>>> >
>>> > kdeutils is the natural choice (see above).
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> I'll ask sysadmin to make the above moves unless anyone objects within
>>> >> a couple of weeks. I would put ktux and amor into unmaintained (or
>>> >> playground? not sure which is more suitable) and stop releasing them
>>> >> in 15.12 and move kteatime to kdeutils.
>>> >
>>> > Just please check about ktux first.
>>> >
>>> > Ciao
>>> > --
>>> > Luigi
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