[kde-community] retiring unmaintained modules?

Jaroslaw Staniek staniek at kde.org
Sat Jan 10 23:29:46 UTC 2015


On 11 January 2015 at 00:17, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
> El Diumenge, 11 de gener de 2015, a les 00:10:15, Jaroslaw Staniek va
> escriure:
>> On 11 January 2015 at 00:00, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
>> > El Dissabte, 10 de gener de 2015, a les 23:37:30, Rick Timmis va escriure:
>> >> Hi
>> >>
>> >> Text idea below
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2015 23:13:20 +0100, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org>
>> >>
>> >> wrote:
>> >> > El Dissabte, 10 de gener de 2015, a les 22:56:06, Boudewijn Rempt va
>> >> >
>> >> > escriure:
>> >> >> On Sat, 10 Jan 2015, Albert Astals Cid wrote:
>> >> >> > Some of them like kword and koffice are already in unmaintained and
>> >> >> > closed
>> >> >> > for bugs, not much more we can do with them other than deleting them
>> >> >> > which i'm not sure it's a good idea.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Close the bugs as "unmaintained"? There's no reason to keep bugs open
>> >>
>> >> for
>> >>
>> >> >> dead projects.
>> >> >
>> >> > In an ideal world you'd have biliions of bug triagers that would go
>> >> > through
>> >> > all the open bugs and move the ones that still exist to calligra for
>> >> > example
>> >> > (meaning i think there's still some sense to keep them there)
>> >> >
>> >> >> > Others like kftpgrabber may be either suggested for new people to
>> >>
>> >> adopt
>> >>
>> >> >> > them and if not moved to unmaintained.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't believe in that -- asking for maintainers never works. It's
>> >> >> vanishingly rare that an unmaintained project gets a new lease of
>> >> >> life,
>> >> >> and it never happens if there's no maintainer around anymore to answer
>> >> >> questions.
>> >> >
>> >> > I don't believe in things you belieave and vice-versa ;)
>> >> >
>> >> >> > I guess we should also be really careful, as you said some software
>> >>
>> >> is
>> >>
>> >> >> > "done" and the fact that it didn't get any development doesn't mean
>> >>
>> >> it
>> >>
>> >> >> > should be killed.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Of course. But kmail (not kmail2) is _dead_. It's bugs should be
>> >>
>> >> closed.
>> >>
>> >> >> It's silly to see it cluttering up bugzilla's weekly top-twenty stats.
>> >> >
>> >> > Same as before, ideally we'd have someone going over the bugs and
>> >>
>> >> deciding
>> >>
>> >> > what still happens and what still not and move over to kmail2.
>> >> >
>> >> > Now one way of doing this is crowdsourcing it to the reporters via a
>> >>
>> >> nice
>> >>
>> >> > bug
>> >> > closing email for every of the unmaintained bugs/apps.
>> >> >
>> >> > In one hand it always pisses me a bit off when that happens (i.e. i
>> >> > reported a
>> >> > bug and the only acknowledgement i get is years later saying that it
>> >> > was
>> >> >
>> >> > against an unmaintained version that i should re-check), in the other
>> >> > if
>> >> >
>> >> > someone is able to write a nice text it may not be so bad.
>> >>
>> >> I like this idea... possible text
>> >
>> > It's nice. We would need another version for those bugs that belong to
>> > products that have other products the bug may apply to, say kmail ->
>> > kmail2, kword -> calligrawords, etc.
>>
>> When Calligra appeared bugs have been copied from KOffice for
>> duplicated apps -- IIRC. Or not?
>
> Maybe for calligra, but for kmail? or for kghostview, kpdf -> okular?
>
> I think it's still nice to have that text.

Yes, No doubt here.

So I think we have things sorted out for KOffice products: we don't
need to keep them if there are copies already. There were no public
releases of KOffice apps after the fork, IIRC. So it can be maybe
checked  using some query if there are valuable bugs/wishes reported
for KOffice products after the fork, either by users who had KOffice
installed before or installed it after Calligra was available
(installed for any reason, including mistake).

I am not too motivated to do that since Kexi and Krita are among apps
that are not duplicated.

-- 
regards, Jaroslaw Staniek

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