[kde-community] KDE Essential Applications - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5
Adriaan de Groot
groot at kde.org
Fri Jan 17 23:32:44 UTC 2014
On Thursday 16 January 2014 22:24:09 Marco Martin wrote:
> they are both desiderable, but they seems quite in contrast each other.
> I'm sure I'm hitting a false dichotomy there, but not seeing a clear
> solution. does anybody does?
There shouldn't be a dichotomy. It's a matter of defining and then pointing out
sensible groupings of applications (a term which I use broadly here) to
downstream. Whether any particular downstream picks it up (e.g. as a FreeBSD
metaport or an OpenSUSE product) is up to them. But just defining these things
forces *us* to think about how things work together and what kinds of tasks /
workflows / hobbies we can effectively enable with our applications. It can also
help downstream think about how *they* group stuff and present it to the user.
This discussion is straying close to "package management without talking about
packages anymore". That's probably a good thing.
In the FreeBSD world, there's a history of having metapackages that get
particular tasks done. One is called "kde4" and it installs a whole bunch of
KDE things; also extragear apps and some third-party stuff as well. But my
favorite metaport used to be "instant-workstation". You install it, and it
pulls in the X server, some programming libraries, programming tools, and twm.
And it's a great match between the task I want to accomplish and the
(meta)package that implements this. And then I don't need to worry about
figuring out where to get xterm from, if I can trust the people who define
instant-workstation to think about the task at hand and what tools are needed.
Note also that we *have* some kinds of metapackages already defined. Thery're
on our website, at http://www.kde.org/applications/ . You'll note that the
list of applications in "graphics" doesn't coincide with the repositories, and
does include digiKam, because that's a useful application for doing (some
kinds of) graphics work.
Who said tags earlier in this thread? Yeah.
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