[kde-community] Plasmoids and Apps - was - Re: Applications in KDE Generation 5

Jaroslaw Staniek staniek at kde.org
Thu Jan 16 00:37:24 UTC 2014

Where do we draw the line between them?

Plasmoids come from (live in) the Plasma Workspaces world, it's our desktop.
Thanks to the awesome KF5 effort apps are becoming more
desktop-agnostic than ever. These two worlds rock while running
side-by-side but also would shine when used separately.

I do see cases when both plasmoid and app are shipped but if we have
to reap fruits of KF5 they should not be too deeply dependent, one on
another, technically and in terms of deployment.

And BTW, if this counts, I dislike idea of embedding plasmoid-like
style in apps. Such ideas blur the boundaries that should be sharp,
and look a bit like a technical exercise.

KF5 is for devs, what's new for users? Some users perhaps expect a
massive change in next gen KDE's app HIGs for desktops (and HIGs that
are detailed but generic enough). Mixing plasmoids, as desktop
gadgets, with apps cannot be a replacement for this task.

my 2c

On 16 January 2014 00:46, Jeremy Whiting <jpwhiting at kde.org> wrote:
> +1 I don't think plasmoids or applications really replace each other.
> Some users want a calculator application, others want a handy
> plasmoid. No need to choose between them, ship both imo.
> BR,
> Jeremy
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 2:56 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid at kde.org> wrote:
>> El Dimecres, 15 de gener de 2014, a les 21:47:17, John Layt va escriure:
>>> Hi,
>>> * Do we need small utilities like KCalc as stand-alone apps, or do
>>> they belong in Workspaces, perhaps as Plasmoids?  Where do we draw the
>>> line between them?  And if there's both a Plasmoid and an App for
>>> something, which goes in the main release?
>> Please don't force plasmoids down my throat. Why would i want a calculator as
>> a plasmoid instead of an application? So that i need to minimize all my other
>> apps to see the desktop to see it instead of just alt-tabbing?
>> Cheers,
>>   Albert
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