[kde-china] 讨论一下关于重建 KDE China的问题

星期日十月 9 09:21:30 UTC 2011

 他们应该非常重视计划吧。他似乎觉得中文KDE站点已经很多再多下去如果不弄好会乱掉。呵呵。这个和文化有关了吧，外国人的合作意识确实很强。
当时他建议我直接翻译官方英文站点，结果我后来用typo3并且完全没有弄好。。

关于主页，我总是表达不清。但是大概就是针对KDE用户和KDE潜在用户需要分开处理?对于KDE用户可能更需要得出KDE的更新情况？或者是KDE一些帮助信息。而对于潜在用户，是否更需要让他们迅速比较出KDE和GNOME等桌面环境的不同之处，有何可以吸引他们尝试的特质？


不过解决问题确实很麻烦，当时我就没弄好。但是我肯定会尽力协助的。官方肯定是非常愿意提供的，这个我很清楚。所以我觉得其实可以用官方的？如果要自己搞，shared
host就算了，大家募集一点经费还是怎么的？

www.kdecn.org
有一些out-dated了。transfix和ikde我觉得可以直接放到一个框架里面，没有必要完全整合。账户上不整合问题也不大，毕竟翻译者数量远小于使用者。
2011/10/8 林风 <ihacker.phoenix在gmail.com>

> 感谢Sami的介绍，我跟#kde-www的neverendingo谈了一下，他的意思是KDE愿意提供空间以及 cn.kde.org
> 或类似域名，甚至一个新的顶级域名。但是同时又提出一个问题，KDE在中国有几个站点，kdecn.org，l10n.kdecn.org，ikde.org
> ，kdechina.org，有些站点已经过期了，有些还在维护。我们有一个想法――重建KDE中国。但是以上站点都已经有为数不少的用户、文档、资源等，想要统一起来还比较困难，比如域名的解析，如果统一使用
> cn.kde.org 的subdomain，下面有 cn.kde.org/blog   cn.kde.org/forum
> cn.kde.org/something-other.... 看似很好的想法，但是解析到不同的服务器可能还有困难。
>
>
> 所以我想和邮件列表里的各位再讨论一下这个问题，我们要不要重建一个全新的，完整的，KDE官方认可的KDE中国。如果可以，我们怎么组织服务器（我们自己搞？还是用官方的？），怎么组织管理资源？还有没有其它问题？
>
> neverendingo表示愿意更新到KDE官方社区，如果我们可以的话。
>
> 一下是IRC的聊天记录。英文不好，大家见谅哈....
>
>>  [16:02:24] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: hi
>>
>> [16:02:52] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Do you know about the new KDE
>>> Chinese forum?
>>
>> [16:03:16] <phoenixlzx> http://www.kdechina.org
>>
>> [16:03:20] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: yeah, heard it
>>
>> [16:03:29] <neverendingo_> looks nice :P
>>
>> [16:03:44] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: thx.I'm the admin.
>>
>> [16:04:47] <neverendingo_> what was the intention of splitting it from the
>>> main forum?
>>
>> [16:05:25] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Nothing just...I found there is a
>>> "Taiwan" forum...
>>
>> [16:06:15] <neverendingo_> oh, i didn't know...
>>
>> [16:06:25] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: So I think maybe I can create a
>>> space for Chinese Mainland,even the whole China.
>>
>> [16:06:41] <neverendingo_> KDE-中国 means taiwan?
>>
>> [16:07:12] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: No...it means KDE China,including
>>> mainland and taiwan.
>>
>> [16:07:37] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: btw,where are you come from?
>>
>> [16:07:49] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: i am from germany
>>
>> [16:08:06] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Do you know 中国 means China?
>>
>> [16:08:22] <neverendingo_> nope, even though i set it up :D
>>
>> [16:08:26] <neverendingo_> but a long time ago
>>
>> [16:09:22] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Ok...No other means,and i dont want
>>> to talk about politics,but i want to say:there is only one China.
>>
>> [16:10:12] <neverendingo_> so you prefer to drive your own
>>> webspace/domain?
>>
>> [16:11:39] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: I set up KDE-China in purpose to
>>> set a platform for Chinese speakers and those who doesnt speak English
>>> well...if possible,I want to use kde.org subdomain and put this site to
>>> KDE.
>>
>>  [16:12:06] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: sure, that should be possible
>>
>> [16:12:47] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Now the site is on bluehost,and i
>>> have some personal sites on it.if KDE have limit resources,just leave it
>>> there
>>
>> [16:13:09] <neverendingo_> no, i think we still have some space :)
>>
>> [16:13:39] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: about the forum, should it be
>>> driven separately or merged into our main one?
>>
>> [16:14:10] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: well,i have no other purpose just
>>> want to help KDE community.Of course,it should belong to KDE community.
>>
>> [16:14:53] <neverendingo_> no, i mean both options are fine. only that the
>>> current forum admins are already damn good at what they do, and thus one
>>> could share manpower
>>
>> [16:15:51] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: uh..by now KDE-China has very few
>>> users...
>>
>> [16:17:07] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: My self isnt very professional
>>> though,but if KDE needs me,i would be there.
>>
>> [16:17:58] <neverendingo_> any help is always welcome, i guess. and many
>>> areas one could do something
>>
>> [16:18:51] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: So uh...return to the topic.the
>>> forum.How do want to deal with it?
>>
>> [16:19:11] <phoenixlzx> How do you,sorry
>>
>> [16:19:17] <neverendingo_> is there something like a chinese kde team?
>>
>> [16:20:15] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: yes,but not a team-like,it is
>>> consist of some person,and we have a Mailling list.
>>
>> [16:20:29] <neverendingo_> sounds good
>>
>> [16:20:49] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Just like we have
>>> kdecn,ikde,KDEChina,etc.
>>
>> [16:21:13] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: it is basically up to you. we could
>>> start afresh on the main forum and replicate the structure you have in the
>>> new forum. or you request an entire domain with your own space
>>
>>  [16:22:03] --> tazz_ (~Gaurav在triband-mum-120.60.141.67.mtnl.net.in) has
>>> joined #kde-www
>>
>> [16:22:14] <-> BartOtten is now known as BartO_away
>>
>> [16:22:21] --> koolhead17 (~atul在unaffiliated/koolhead17) has joined
>>> #kde-www
>>
>> [16:23:26] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: No need to set up a new domain i
>>> guess,if you want to set up a new completed KDE-China site,just a sub domain
>>> like cn.kde.org,or something other..
>>
>>  [16:23:56] <neverendingo_> subdomain, sure
>>
>> [16:24:42] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: if you just want the subdomain way,
>>> just enter a sysadmin bug with the request for cn.kde.org and where to
>>> point the DNS to
>>
>> [16:25:03] <neverendingo_> on
>>> https://bugs.kde.org/enter_sysadmin_request.cgi
>>
>> [16:25:18] <-- tazz (~Gaurav在triband-mum-120.60.140.10.mtnl.net.in) has
>>> quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
>>
>> [16:25:35] <-> BartO_away is now known as BartOtten
>>
>> [16:26:09] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: wait,but we have kdecn.org as main
>>> site(out-of-date),and ikde.org as blog,also l10n.kdecn.org as an
>>> online-translating platform
>>
>>  [16:26:39] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: and now i setup kdechina.org...
>>
>> [16:26:56] <neverendingo_> oh, much mixed domains... :D
>>
>> [16:27:42] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: So it may complicated..if we want
>>> to get a united site
>>
>> [16:28:13] <neverendingo_> indeed
>>
>> [16:29:50] <neverendingo_> is kdecn.org even maintained?
>>
>> [16:31:14] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Not clear.I only know
>>> l10n.kdecn.org is maintained by csslayer,and ikde.org,also fcitx input
>>> method.
>>
>>  [16:34:13] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: if possible,i want to set up a
>>> fresh,united and complete site cn.kde.org,with cn.kde.org/forum
>>> cn.kde.org/blog   cn.kde.org/something-else...but i cant before discuss
>>> these things with other admins
>>
>>  [16:35:07] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: yeah, that would indeed be the
>>> best idea
>>
>> [16:36:27] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: So..i will talk about these issue
>>> with other guys and get an idea to you,and Hans.is that ok?
>>
>> [16:36:50] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: fine by me, sure
>>
>> [16:37:12] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: All right.Thanks for mention it.
>>
>>
>
> 就我个人来说，我是非常希望能够重建KDE-China的。只是国内用户都比较分散，如果能把各个论坛的KDE用户召集起来的话，人数应当还是不少的。――并且我们没有发行版限制，这一点更是优势。
>
> 大家有什么问题，请尽量提出，大家尽快解决这个问题....
> --
> Regards,
>
> Phoenix Lin
>
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