[kde-china] 讨论一下关于重建 KDE China的问题

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感谢Sami的介绍，我跟#kde-www的neverendingo谈了一下，他的意思是KDE愿意提供空间以及 cn.kde.org
或类似域名，甚至一个新的顶级域名。但是同时又提出一个问题，KDE在中国有几个站点，kdecn.org，l10n.kdecn.org，ikde.org，
kdechina.org，有些站点已经过期了，有些还在维护。我们有一个想法――重建KDE中国。但是以上站点都已经有为数不少的用户、文档、资源等，想要统一起来还比较困难，比如域名的解析，如果统一使用
cn.kde.org 的subdomain，下面有 cn.kde.org/blog   cn.kde.org/forum
cn.kde.org/something-other.... 看似很好的想法，但是解析到不同的服务器可能还有困难。

所以我想和邮件列表里的各位再讨论一下这个问题，我们要不要重建一个全新的，完整的，KDE官方认可的KDE中国。如果可以，我们怎么组织服务器（我们自己搞？还是用官方的？），怎么组织管理资源？还有没有其它问题？

neverendingo表示愿意更新到KDE官方社区，如果我们可以的话。

一下是IRC的聊天记录。英文不好，大家见谅哈....

> [16:02:24] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: hi
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> [16:02:52] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Do you know about the new KDE
>> Chinese forum?
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> [16:03:16] <phoenixlzx> http://www.kdechina.org
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> [16:03:20] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: yeah, heard it
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> [16:03:29] <neverendingo_> looks nice :P
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> [16:03:44] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: thx.I'm the admin.
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> [16:04:47] <neverendingo_> what was the intention of splitting it from the
>> main forum?
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> [16:05:25] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Nothing just...I found there is a
>> "Taiwan" forum...
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> [16:06:15] <neverendingo_> oh, i didn't know...
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> [16:06:25] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: So I think maybe I can create a
>> space for Chinese Mainland,even the whole China.
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> [16:06:41] <neverendingo_> KDE-中国 means taiwan?
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> [16:07:12] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: No...it means KDE China,including
>> mainland and taiwan.
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> [16:07:37] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: btw,where are you come from?
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> [16:07:49] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: i am from germany
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> [16:08:06] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Do you know 中国 means China?
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> [16:08:22] <neverendingo_> nope, even though i set it up :D
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> [16:08:26] <neverendingo_> but a long time ago
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> [16:09:22] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Ok...No other means,and i dont want
>> to talk about politics,but i want to say:there is only one China.
>
> [16:10:12] <neverendingo_> so you prefer to drive your own webspace/domain?
>
> [16:11:39] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: I set up KDE-China in purpose to set
>> a platform for Chinese speakers and those who doesnt speak English well...if
>> possible,I want to use kde.org subdomain and put this site to KDE.
>
> [16:12:06] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: sure, that should be possible
>
> [16:12:47] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Now the site is on bluehost,and i
>> have some personal sites on it.if KDE have limit resources,just leave it
>> there
>
> [16:13:09] <neverendingo_> no, i think we still have some space :)
>
> [16:13:39] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: about the forum, should it be driven
>> separately or merged into our main one?
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> [16:14:10] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: well,i have no other purpose just
>> want to help KDE community.Of course,it should belong to KDE community.
>
> [16:14:53] <neverendingo_> no, i mean both options are fine. only that the
>> current forum admins are already damn good at what they do, and thus one
>> could share manpower
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> [16:15:51] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: uh..by now KDE-China has very few
>> users...
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> [16:17:07] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: My self isnt very professional
>> though,but if KDE needs me,i would be there.
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> [16:17:58] <neverendingo_> any help is always welcome, i guess. and many
>> areas one could do something
>
> [16:18:51] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: So uh...return to the topic.the
>> forum.How do want to deal with it?
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> [16:19:11] <phoenixlzx> How do you,sorry
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> [16:19:17] <neverendingo_> is there something like a chinese kde team?
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> [16:20:15] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: yes,but not a team-like,it is
>> consist of some person,and we have a Mailling list.
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> [16:20:29] <neverendingo_> sounds good
>
> [16:20:49] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Just like we have
>> kdecn,ikde,KDEChina,etc.
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> [16:21:13] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: it is basically up to you. we could
>> start afresh on the main forum and replicate the structure you have in the
>> new forum. or you request an entire domain with your own space
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> [16:22:14] <-> BartOtten is now known as BartO_away
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> [16:22:21] --> koolhead17 (~atul在unaffiliated/koolhead17) has joined
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> [16:23:26] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: No need to set up a new domain i
>> guess,if you want to set up a new completed KDE-China site,just a sub domain
>> like cn.kde.org,or something other..
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> [16:23:56] <neverendingo_> subdomain, sure
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> [16:24:42] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: if you just want the subdomain way,
>> just enter a sysadmin bug with the request for cn.kde.org and where to
>> point the DNS to
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> [16:25:03] <neverendingo_> on
>> https://bugs.kde.org/enter_sysadmin_request.cgi
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> [16:25:18] <-- tazz (~Gaurav在triband-mum-120.60.140.10.mtnl.net.in) has
>> quit (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
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> [16:25:35] <-> BartO_away is now known as BartOtten
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> [16:26:09] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: wait,but we have kdecn.org as main
>> site(out-of-date),and ikde.org as blog,also l10n.kdecn.org as an
>> online-translating platform
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> [16:26:39] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: and now i setup kdechina.org...
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> [16:26:56] <neverendingo_> oh, much mixed domains... :D
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> [16:27:42] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: So it may complicated..if we want to
>> get a united site
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> [16:28:13] <neverendingo_> indeed
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> [16:29:50] <neverendingo_> is kdecn.org even maintained?
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> [16:31:14] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: Not clear.I only know
>> l10n.kdecn.org is maintained by csslayer,and ikde.org,also fcitx input
>> method.
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> [16:34:13] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: if possible,i want to set up a
>> fresh,united and complete site cn.kde.org,with cn.kde.org/forum
>> cn.kde.org/blog   cn.kde.org/something-else...but i cant before discuss
>> these things with other admins
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> [16:35:07] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: yeah, that would indeed be the best
>> idea
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> [16:36:27] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: So..i will talk about these issue
>> with other guys and get an idea to you,and Hans.is that ok?
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> [16:36:50] <neverendingo_> phoenixlzx: fine by me, sure
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> [16:37:12] <phoenixlzx> neverendingo_: All right.Thanks for mention it.
>
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就我个人来说，我是非常希望能够重建KDE-China的。只是国内用户都比较分散，如果能把各个论坛的KDE用户召集起来的话，人数应当还是不少的。――并且我们没有发行版限制，这一点更是优势。

大家有什么问题，请尽量提出，大家尽快解决这个问题....
-- 
Regards,

Phoenix Lin
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