[Kde-accessibility] OpenOffice and KDE4 Accessiibilty [was: Orca/KDE Integration]

[Éric Bischoff]

Le Vendredi 1 Septembre 2006 20:25, Olaf Jan Schmidt a écrit :
> [ Éric Bischoff ]
>
> > See
> > 	http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/contrast.html
>
> That link doesn't work.

Ooops, sorry :
	http://opensource.bureau-cornavin.com/settings/contrast.html

> > The toolbar handles and the combo box frame are invisible (black on
> > black), but now in KMail I can't see the toolbar handles nor the combo
> > boxes frames either. So OpenOffice.org and KDE basically behave the same
> > in this respect...
>
> KMail should be OK if you select "HighContrast" in kcontrol > Appearance &
> Themes > Style

Ah, got it, I was trying "High contrast" in "Colors" section, but not in 
"Style" section! Sorry.

If you select these settings (white text and contrasted theme), it's perfect 
both in KMail and in OpenOffice.org with respect to toolbar handles, 
scrollbars, combo boxes, etc.

> All these colour/font/icon settings can be selected together via
> "HighContrast" in kcontrol > Appearance & Themes > Theme Manager (but safe
> your own theme before selecting anything, otherwise it is not easy to
> restore your own preferred settings).

OK, got it. Thanks for the guided tour...

> > The ruler remains black on white background. So it becomes the thing you
> > see the most on the screen. It's still usable though.
>
> Well, the numbers that are outside of the ruler are black on black, as well
> as the icon for selecting the tab sort.

Cortrect.

> Also, some people cannot read black 
> text on a white background. Large bright areas hurt their eyes. The KDE
> colours really ought to be picked up here.

Yes. But I don't think it has something to do with KDE. It's probably more a 
matter of using fixed colors, which is wrong.

Okay, all that stuff deserves entries in IssueZilla. I can see three kind of 
entries :

- OOo uses fixed colors, like the tree view in the settings dialog box that is 
always written in black. This typically ends up in black text show on black 
background... Such issues are internal OOo issues.

- OOo does not pick up KDE colors. Typical example seems to be the color of 
the document's background, which, for some obscure reason, is always white by 
default.

- The entry about monochrome icons is probably a problem of its own kind. In 
the best case, it's just map a setting to another. In the worst case we would 
have to add the possibility to use another icons set :-((.

> > The scroll bar is invisible, yes. But in KMail it's the same problem.
>
> Not with the HighContrast style.

In HighContrast style (not color) it is okay in OOo too.

> > Would you agree with that description? If yes I let you submit it in
> > IssueZilla ;-). The address is
> > 	http://qa.openoffice.org/servlets/ProjectIssues
>
> OK, I will do so.

Cool. You can put me on CC (I am "ebischoff").

> > Anyway, this setting is not picked from KDE, and that looks to me like a
> > bug. A real KDE integration bug, this time... I can file the issue, if
> > you want.
>
> Yes, please do so.

Doing it right now...



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