[Kde-accessibility] compile kttsd - EST_THash.h problem

[Bill Haneman]

Hi folks:

A couple of points;

1) gnopernicus is not at 1.0, or even "alpha" yet, though that should be
coming along soon.  It will be bundled with GNOME 2.4 ( at least in the
core "community" version of GNOME).  Right now we really do NOT expect
casual end-users to find it a usable work environment; nonetheless a
number of brave people are using it already.  I think it would be wrong
to extrapolate much from those initial impressions since nobody's
claiming it's ready for end users yet.  

2) GNOME itself is quite stable now, in my opinion, if you are running a
stable release.  The stable releases don't support Gnopernicus yet, that
will come with release 2.4, scheduled for September.  So those folks who
are experimenting with running GNOME with gnopernicus now are using
unstable development versions of both gnopernicus and the GNOME
platform.

3) Offering any kind of useful support for severely disabled people
takes a *lot* of time.  I find it very doubtful that a KDE-based
solution could possibly come online in a modest amount of time; i.e.
gnopernicus and GNOME 2.4 will have been out and stabilized well before
then.  You are welcome to promote and prefer a KDE-based solution but
you will have to wait for it :-)

regards,

- Bill

> >- From the statement that your project needs TTS for browser,email, word
> >processer etc. I read that you might be interested in a screen reader? On 
> >the
> >Gnome platform there is such a project (Gnopernicus). That one uses the
> >AT-SPI architecture for capturing the screen contents, so that it works
> >together with all AT-SPI aware applications. Unfortunately AT-SPI support 
> >is
> >yet missing under KDE. However, we are currently working on concepts of how
> >to change this. We won't start coding on this until end of August, though.
> 
> I've tried Gnopernicus, and I think it's a worthy project. But; I still have 
> too many stability problems with Gnome overall.
> 
> The people I'm trying to help have a variety of visual and/or physical 
> disabilities. ( Speech recognition is also on their wishlist,but the 
> majority can benefit from TTS.
> 
> Besides suffering disabilities...these people are also financially 
> disadvantaged. So a no / low cost solution running on a low cost computer 
> became prime objectives.And,because these folk  are
> handicapped,usage must be as simple and stable as possible.
> 
> Gnome keeps getting better....but I'm still not convinced that it's stable.
> 
> I use KDE on Mandrake 9.1 for all my daily computing. It has the stability 
> level these people need.
> About the only situation KDE really has trouble with is trying to access a 
> file on an unmounted partition. I'd really like to present a KDE - based 
> solution for these people.
> 
> The project is open-ended; so I can wait for the new coding in late summer.
> 
> Again, many thanks.
> 
> paul
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >Gunnar Schmi Dt
> >
> >P.S.
> >Please cc to the kde-accessibility mailing list as the contents of this
> >discussion might be of interest for others as well and because I am not the
> >only person that might answer you ;-)
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