[Kbabel] Full Gettext support in KBabel

[Nicolas Goutte]

On Friday 21 October 2005 08:45, Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
> Dňa Štvrtok 20 Október 2005 20:00 Nicolas Goutte napísal:
> > On Thursday 20 October 2005 15:04, Stanislav Visnovsky wrote:
> > > Dňa Štvrtok 20 Október 2005 14:43 Nicolas Goutte napísal:
> > > > On Thursday 20 October 2005 13:24, Chusslove Illich wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What would it take for KBabel to fully support Gettext PO features?
> > > >
> > > > Well, it is quite (too) late now, as KDE 3.5 is in message freeze.
> > > > Therefore KBabel cannot be changed where it would matter.
> > > >
> > > > (KDE 4 will not be translated with its own KBabel but with the KBabel
> > > > of KDE 3.5. We had that experience already with KDE2 to KDE3 switch.)
> > > >
> > > > > Since
> > > > > few days ago, Gettext has full support for what we need in KDE:
> > > > > formal contexts (new msgctxt field) and xgettext extractor updated
> > > > > accordingly (will also work for overloaded ordinary, context and
> > > > > plural calls). So I think there is no reason to fiddle with custom
> > > > > stuff for KDE 4, providing that all tools are updated to handle
> > > > > standard Gettext POs, KBabel being primary.
> > > >
> > > > Well, it also depends how fast such a Gettext is officially released,
> > > > so that it can be really used.
> > > >
> > > > (Do not forget! KBabel is a tool for translators. That are not people
> > > > that can jump on every new software tool, either because they do not
> > > > have the knowledge how to compile or because downloading is
> > > > cost-intensive (not to say prohibitive). You can look at how many
> > > > people we have lost with the change from CVS to SVN.)
> > > >
> > > > > I've browsed a bit through KBabel's Gettext import/export code, and
> > > > > couldn't find anything explicitly left to be done, but I've been
> > > > > said that
> > > >
> > > > msgid_plural and msgstr_plural are not correctly handled
> > > > (only loaded as far as I understand the code).
> > >
> > > They are fully supported. Try one, for example gettext.po ;-)
> >
> > In that case, I probably misunderstood something that you have written.
> > :-(
> >
> > So I am going to revert the KDE 3.5 feature plan on this point.
> >
> > So we would need to introduce the new context in a (rather) transparent
> > way. (Not sure if somebpody can do that until KDE 3.5).
>
> We could silently ignore it for now - just to make sure we can open the
> files. 

But if we cannot save the context, it does not help at all for KDE4 (as for 
Gettext it would became another message.)

Ignoring is only good for the catalog manager, where such information is 
indeed superfluous. (But there we have the problem of the msgfmt call.)

>Adapting the code to properly handle this would be tricky - we could
> probably map the new PO syntax to the old KDE context syntax - that should
> work

It will not work with contexted plurals. (But indeed we perhaps does not need 
such a feature in KDE 4.0 .)

Have a nice day!

>
> Stano