random and fixed features in mutipledataset

[Emmanuel Charruau]

Hi,
I read in Johnny's email a part of what I wanted to answer.
We will need for school an option to be able to use static data and for
public version the random mode.
We could keep a single word to provide the data and a Boolean version to
say if we work in static or random mode.

Emmanuel

Le ven. 2 août 2019 à 18:26, Johnny Jazeix <jazeix at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Hi,
> let's not forget there are 2 main use cases of GCompris: at school
> (under a teacher, meaning they want to use GCompris to teach a
> specific feature) or at home (where we should be able to provide
> multiple different levels and not always the same ones).
>
> Depending on the activities we port to multiple dataset, it may make
> sense to have a multiple dataset supporting both conditions to please
> both worlds.
> Maybe the activity can be reworked to keep the current behaviour and
> on some keywords, making a static dataset.
>
> The multiple dataset only provides data, it's up to the activity to
> handle it how it wants :).
>
> Johnny
>
>
> Le ven. 2 août 2019 à 15:16, Timothée Giet <animtim at gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm sorry I don't agree with that idea:
> >
> > -having a fixed list like makes the activity predictable for the user,
> > so it's better to keep the randomness for the user to always have to
> > really look and think to provide the result accordingly.
> >
> > -you talk about "if I'm working on a new number...", but that is not the
> > way it works, as each dataset provides a range of number, not a specific
> > new number.
> >
> > Timo.
> >
> >
> > Le 02/08/2019 à 15:02, Emmanuel Charruau a écrit :
> > > Hi Akshay, Hi mentors,
> > >
> > > I see a major lack on the pedagocical use of multipledataset.
> > > It is only working in random mode at the moment, which causes me
> problems.
> > >
> > > Let me give you an example.
> > >
> > > If I am working on a new number in falling dice, for example 7 I want
> > > to be able to recall the other numbers but 7 more often than the other
> > > numbers.
> > > At the moment we will only give to the config file the following
> configuration :
> > >
> > > "level" : "3",
> > >          "objective" : qsTr("Select the number on dominoes up to 7"),
> > >          "words" : [
> > >             "1",
> > >             "2",
> > >             "3",
> > >             "4",
> > >             "5",
> > >             "6",
> > >             "7"
> > >          ]
> > >
> > > and apply random choices within these numbers.
> > >
> > > We should have the choice to be able to provide exactly the numbers we
> > > want to use through a list which will not be  random.
> > >
> > > Example if I want to teach 7:
> > >
> > >        "words" : [
> > >             "7",
> > >             "2",
> > >             "3",
> > >             "7",
> > >             "5",
> > >             "6",
> > >             "6",
> > >             "1",
> > >             "2",
> > >             "7",
> > >             "4",
> > >             "5",
> > >             "6",
> > >             "7",
> > >             "1",
> > >             "7",
> > >             "3",
> > >             "4",
> > >             "5",
> > >             "7",
> > >             "7",
> > >             "1",
> > >             "7",
> > >             "6",
> > >             "4",
> > >             "7",
> > >             "6",
> > >             "7",
> > >             "7",
> > >             "2",
> > >             "3",
> > >             "4",
> > >             "5",
> > >             "6",
> > >             "7",
> > >
> > >          ]
> > >
> > > Note how often 7 is present in the list (also 6 since theoritically it
> > > is the less well known numbers being just taught).
> > >
> > >
> > > I would also suggest to rename "words" into StaticListDataList and
> > > RandomDataList or whatever like this, as the keywords needs to be more
> > > generic than words and have modes (random or fixed list)
> > >
> > > In the activity I am writting at the moment, it will look like this:
> > >    "words" : [
> > >             "12345,2",
> > >             "1245,5",
> > >             "42,125",
> > >             "456,85",
> > >
> > > you can see that these data are not words.
> > > There are also other activities where we present images and not words.
> > >
> > > Finally if we use new keywords we can choose to keep the actual word
> > > "words" and not break the compatibility.
> > >
> > > Mentors, Akshay feedback is very welcomed :)
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Emmanuel
> >
> >
> >
>
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