GSoC 2019

[Johnny Jazeix]

Sure, I don't remember the full conversation and the final design is still
to be concluded for integration, but for GSoC, it won't change much on the
rework on the activity.
Let's open a new thread to discuss about it and let's keep this one for
GSoC :).


Le ven. 21 déc. 2018 à 12:43, Timothée Giet <animtim at gmail.com> a écrit :

> Le 21/12/2018 à 12:21, Timothée Giet a écrit :
>
> Le 21/12/2018 à 12:11, Johnny Jazeix a écrit :
>
> Hi,
>
> Le ven. 21 déc. 2018 à 11:44, Aman Kumar Gupta <gupta2140 at gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 3:35 PM Johnny Jazeix <jazeix at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Like every year, we plan to be part of GSoC.
>>>
>>> We also need to define the tasks we'll propose (KDE submits its
>>> application on Jan 15th).
>>>
>>> Looking at the major activities to port the only missing one is "analog
>>> electricity" (https://phabricator.kde.org/T5954). There is still room
>>> for other activities too (adding biology ones for example) or the actual
>>> phabricator tasks (https://phabricator.kde.org/project/profile/1/).
>>>
>>> The second point to work on, is to continue working on the multi dataset
>>> per activity. For now, it's still a WIP in branch multi_dataset (
>>> https://cgit.kde.org/gcompris.git/log/?h=multiple_dataset) but it will
>>> be a rework on a lot of activities to use dataset in form of json instead
>>> of hardcoding the levels in the js/qml files (the aim not being to do all
>>> of them in the GSoC but having it half time with an activity).
>>>
>>
>> Can we have an overview idea of what is the concept of multiple dataset
>> and how are the activities supposed to adapt to it?
>>
>
> For now, in the branch, only the reversecount activity has been done as
> proof of concept.
> In the menu, we plan to replace the stars icons with the dataset name:
> https://pasteboard.co/HSKeyND.png
> On clicking on it, it will display the different datasets specific to this
> activity and their objectives: https://pasteboard.co/HSKeiTW.png
> (In the code, a dataset is inherited from qml object:
> https://cgit.kde.org/gcompris.git/tree/src/core/Dataset.qml?h=multiple_dataset
> and set inside the resource folder of the activity.)
>
> Then, once one is chosen, we can click on the activity and play it as
> usual.
>
>
>> Also what is expected from this task? It can be seen that some work has
>> already started in the branch, it would be good to know what does it aim
>> at? How are the activities supposed to work after addition of multiple
>> dataset?
>>
>
> The aim is to adapt datasets to the skill of the children who are using
> them. An activity may cover a few ages and the aim of it is to split the
> learning curve. For example, if we take the multiplication activity, a
> child who is just starting to learn multiplication tables will often only
> learn during its first year the tables until 5, but GCompris multiplication
> activity presents the tables from 1 to 9 from the beginning. It would be
> great to split in 2 different datasets (maybe more).
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I still don't think we should replace the system with stars we have now, I
> thought we agreed on that when we discussed about multiple-dataset.
>
> The stars are still a valid indication of the overall difficulty level of
> the activities, regardless of dataset system. It would end up more
> confusing for the user if we replace that with some dataset names.
>
> I think it would be much better to have a bar button inside the activity
> to select and display the dataset level.
>
>
> Another way if we really want to mix dataset concept with stars would be
> to assign each dataset a star level, and then show on activity icons in the
> menu the difficulty level corresponding to the selected dataset.
>
>
> Timothée
>
>
>
> To complete my previous comment, I think a simple way if we mix both stars
> level and dataset, is to also make use of the global setting for stars.
> Like, if an activity has 3 datasets corresponding to star level 1, 2 and 3,
> by default activate all 3 and show the 3 stars icon on it. But, if on main
> setting user/teacher restricts to show only 1st level, then automatically
> set the activity to use only the first dataset/star level and then show the
> 1 star difficulty level on the activity. That would look very logical and
> integrate well with what we have already.
>
> Timothée
>
> Will the end-user be able to create a dataset for himself, or it means
>> multiple dataset like in categorization activity, except that the user will
>> be provided with the all the dataset along with a small description for
>> each, and they can choose one according to their suitability?
>>
>
> Not yet to create its own datasets. The aim afterwards, would be to have a
> server able to create and use datasets. But multiple_dataset is the first
> step towards it.
>
>
>
>>
>>> What do you think? Do you have other ideas we can propose?
>>> Who has time (and will) to mentor this year?
>>>
>>
>>> Johnny
>>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Aman
>>
>>
>
>
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