[gcompris-devel] More commits :)

Tue Apr 22 17:21:04 UTC 2003

Le mar 22/04/2003 à 17:04, Olivier Samyn a écrit :
> More commits again...
> 
> I finished the skin feature by implementing the necessary python binding
> for it.
> 
Excellent, I had a look to it and I am sad not to have time to program a
board. I'd like to use the skin feature the way it is.

> I also updated all plugins to use this new feature. I've done it for the
> standard gcompris fonts and colors. Now if some plugins developpers
> wants to use the skin feature to replace colors/fonts constants/defines
> they are free and the framework is ready (take a look at the
> boards/skin/default/skin.xml and src/gcompris/skin.[h,c] files)
> 
> For the future python board I'm writing... I've been up to now playing
> with gnome canvas code and the python binding... So the current
> pythontest board is just a testing/example board.
> 
> But... I began to implement something and I'll now have time to work on
> it (If I don't find a new feature to impelement :) )
> 
> Now the future board:
> 
OK, so now it's geek end, we talk about kids ;)

> 
> The purpose of this board will simply be to connect two columns of
> circle with lines... but the columns will have some text attached...
> 
> My sister who's a teacher use something like this to teach maths. For
> example a typical board will be:
> 
> 2x3 o  o 6
> 3x3 o  o 15
> 5x3 o  o 9
> 
> And the player will have to connect the good result with the good
> operation like (ascii art isn't easy :( ):
> 
> 2x3 o-----o 6
> 3x3 o-- --o 15
> 5x3 o--X--o 9
> 
> Also my sister doesn't correct the result immediately, she says:
> "You made one, two,... error(s) let's take a look at the book/reference
> and try to correct yourself."
> 
> Then the kid take his book, make some search and try to correct his
> sheet. 
> 
> This procees loops until there are no more errors...
> 
> This seems simple, but for a teache with 20 kids it can become verry
> hard to correct all copies.
> 
> So I'll try to implement something like this in gcompris. With a
> reference dialog that will popup when the kid made a mistake... and this
> dialog will contain the reference for the game...
> 
> For now the plugin contains two circle and a line that will one day
> connect the two :)
> 
> Any sugggest is welcome !

OK, basically, this is a quizz like problem. You can put any kind of
data, math, history, french, ... and you can use it.
I'am sorry to tell you that I don't like it too much because the
computer is useless, you can do the same on paper like your sister is
doing currently. What I like in gcompris or eduapps is when it really
uses the dynamic behaviour of the computer to teach differently. It
should be another oportunity for someone to learn something he/she
didn't get with the traditional aproach.

The goal is not to mimic what teachers are doing well on paper and this
for the last thousand years but to complement a training.

For example, have a look here for some example :
http://lsm.abul.org/~abuledu/Maternelle_Linux_011210/doc/
Then click 'Jeux'

Bruno.

> 
> Olivier Samyn
> 
> 
> Le jeu 17/04/2003 à 22:33, bruno a écrit :
> > Ouah, sounds excellent to me. I just did an autogen, installed it and it
> > runs with no problem.
> > As a minimal test, I entered/left all the boards one by one and got no
> > core dumps and update issues. I have not tested each board completly.
> > 
> > So now you have a moving circle. Can't wait to see what you are going to
> > implement with this.
> > 
> > If you have no idea, you can pick up one from this list:
> > http://www.ofset.org/projects/edusoft/epi.html
> > 
> > Bruno.
> > 
> > 
> > Le jeu 17/04/2003 à 20:19, Olivier Samyn a écrit :
> > > Here is the "changelog" of what I just commited to the gcompris cvs...
> > > 
> > > - Modified the python plugin to work with a python class instead of a
> > > set of functions. (See python.html and pythontest.py for more infos)
> > > - Added a way to specify skins colors and fonts (a skin.xml file located
> > > in the skin directory)
> > > - Modified the gcompris core to use those new infos.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If you want to see what those changes made, take a look at:
> > > http://student.ulb.ac.be/~osamyn/gc-screenshot.jpg
> > > 
> > > I just replaced the fonts name in the pink's skin.xml file...
> > > 
> > > If you want to use those changes, replace the FONT_* (and FONT_BOARD_*)
> > > constants with: gcompris_skin_font_* variables...
> > > The same behaviour occurs with the color constants given in the
> > > gcompris.h file. I don't already updated the current plugins but the
> > > scripts to do it are ready...
> > > 
> > > To end this stroy, plugin writers may specify their own fonts and colors
> > > into the skins skin.xml files using their own "id". To get the value
> > > from the current skin, just use the following functions:
> > > 
> > > guint32 gcompris_skin_get_color(gchar* id);
> > > guint32 gcompris_skin_get_color_default(gchar* id, guint32 defvalue);
> > > gchar* gcompris_skin_get_font(gchar* id);
> > > gchar* gcompris_skin_get_font_default(gchar* id, gchar* defvalue);
> > > 
> > > They return the value associated to a the given id. The _default version
> > > let you specify the value that have to be returned in case of the id
> > > isn't known. the other version are macros that give you a black color
> > > and Sans 12 as default values.
> > > 
> > > To end with this, skin writers don't have to specify all colors/fonts,
> > > the default skin is first loaded and then the values are updated with
> > > the selected skin.
> > > 
> > > For python, I updated the doc (docs/C/python.html) to reflect the
> > > changes I made and to give some tips on programming a gcompris python
> > > board.
> > > 
> > > I also made some changes on the pythontest.py... but it's always not a
> > > playable game (or moving a circle on a screen is a game ?)
> > > 
> > > And Bruno, just as remember, don't forget to do an autogen.sh and to
> > > install all since there are new files ;)
> > > 
> > > See you...
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