[FreeNX-kNX] Compiling NX1.5.0 on amd64

[Xiong Jiang]

Bugs are found first then fixed later. Have a bug tracking system is more
useful than mailing list. Before that bug report in mailing list is still
useful.

People finding bugs also did great help to a project. Fixing the bug need
more knowledge/experience about the code though.

It's true that most people try a package and go away because it's just too
hard for them to fix. How much portion of C programmers understand X server
code on this planet? However the bugs they found is still valuable help.

Thanks for your time and lengthy words.
If I had been trolling, you were replying back with a lot more trolling-like
words, with the sole standing from NoMachine or yourself. It's normal as
we've seen similar things between companies and OSS projects. bitmover is a
very good example.

I am only tracking NX in little spare time so I am doomed to miss a lot of
document/emails/READMEs. I complained because it's not easy for me to find
the information needed. I do not ask for forgiveness on this and feel
grateful for those who pointed me to the documents.

Once a software package is released, it is expected to receive critism.
So, be humble and build the software stronger. That's the mutual interest of
this project and your company.

I said no flamebait so I do not reply anything more than this.

Have fun,
Xiong

On 9/29/05, Gian Filippo Pinzari <pinzari at nomachine.com> wrote:
>
> LROUFAIL at nc.rr.com wrote:
> > We are fortunate they don't just create software for Windows like most
> > commercial software.
>
> It's not a matter of luck. I think there is an implicit pact between
> a company releasing its software as OSS and the community. NX is OSS
> not because of a late attempt to save a product that doesn't sell.
> NX has always been OSS and since 2001 we have not received a single
> significant contribution. On the contrary, we have had to defend
> ourselves from the repeated attacks coming from all fronts. Don't
> forget that a system like NX is a welcome addition to any big vendor's
> software stack. Destroying a company developing an interesting
> software is a much better alternative than partnering and sharing the
> outcomes. Because of that, we have developed a very defensive attitude.
> People can't expect NoMachine to be more open than it is already.
>
> About FreeNX, things work with OSS when developers contribute to the
> advance of a software, not when they just copy it and don't give
> anything back. About the ability of FreeNX to uncover bugs and help
> NoMachine to test the software, I can say that this help doesn't pay
> the bill. It's quite easy to find bugs. Users, for example, are
> wonderful at that. NoMachine offers free downloads already and has a
> staff trained at taking care of filling Trouble Reports. I think that
> FreeNX developers should rather concentrate on helping with these
> bugs, if they care about the future of NX.
>
> I know that the most fierce OSS defenders would like to see FreeNX out-
> pace NoMachine in every respect and would like to see NX finally freed
> of any commercial inheritance. These kind of people will never help
> us. They will rather throw their FUD at us, one of the preferred sports
> in this industry. We are not concerned of competition. On the contrary
> we think that there can be a place for both a OSS and a commercial
> NX version. Unfortunately it's difficult to compete with FreeNX when
> we do 99% of the work and FreeNX keeps doing the 1% and giving it
> away for free. Is this the way OSS development should work?
>
> > Don't take potshots at them from a free forum. They don't owe us better
> > documentation. The code is a good enough gift to the community. If you
> > want more you should pay for it.
>
> Nothing is ever perfect. We are more than wishful to listen and improve,
> as long as there is a clear idea of who's supposed to do the work.
> Bugs don't get fixed automatically just because somebody mentions them
> in a mailing list. The same is true for the documentation. Instead of
> criticizing all the time, people should rather ask themselves if they
> have really tried to help, or have gone the easier route, consisting
> in the usual "thanks a lot, unfortunately this stuff is not good enough
> for me, I'll come when it's ready". As far as I know, everytime I have
> asked somebody in the OSS community to help, he always responded that
> he was already busy with some other thing. I can reassure you that I'm
> tremendously busy too, and all the other people here are busy as well.
>
> /Gian Filippo.
>
>
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