Bugs are found first then fixed later. Have a bug tracking system is more useful than mailing list. Before that bug report in mailing list is still useful.<br><br>People finding bugs also did great help to a project. Fixing the bug need more knowledge/experience about the code though.
<br><br>It's true that most people try a package and go away because it's just too hard for them to fix. How much portion of C programmers understand X server code on this planet? However the bugs they found is still valuable help.
<br><br>Thanks for your time and lengthy words.<br>If I had been trolling, you were replying back with a lot more trolling-like words, with the sole standing from NoMachine or yourself. It's normal as we've seen similar things between companies and OSS projects. bitmover is a very good example.
<br><br>I am only tracking NX in little spare time so I am doomed to miss a lot of document/emails/READMEs. I complained because it's not easy for me to find the information needed. I do not ask for forgiveness on this and feel grateful for those who pointed me to the documents.
<br><br>Once a software package is released, it is expected to receive critism.<br>
So, be humble and build the software stronger. That's the mutual interest of this project and your company.<br><br>I said no flamebait so I do not reply anything more than this.<br><br>Have fun,<br>Xiong<br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">
On 9/29/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Gian Filippo Pinzari</b> <<a href="mailto:pinzari@nomachine.com">pinzari@nomachine.com</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<a href="mailto:LROUFAIL@nc.rr.com">LROUFAIL@nc.rr.com</a> wrote:<br>> We are fortunate they don't just create software for Windows like most<br>> commercial software.<br><br>It's not a matter of luck. I think there is an implicit pact between
<br>a company releasing its software as OSS and the community. NX is OSS<br>not because of a late attempt to save a product that doesn't sell.<br>NX has always been OSS and since 2001 we have not received a single<br>significant contribution. On the contrary, we have had to defend
<br>ourselves from the repeated attacks coming from all fronts. Don't<br>forget that a system like NX is a welcome addition to any big vendor's<br>software stack. Destroying a company developing an interesting<br>software is a much better alternative than partnering and sharing the
<br>outcomes. Because of that, we have developed a very defensive attitude.<br>People can't expect NoMachine to be more open than it is already.<br><br>About FreeNX, things work with OSS when developers contribute to the<br>
advance of a software, not when they just copy it and don't give<br>anything back. About the ability of FreeNX to uncover bugs and help<br>NoMachine to test the software, I can say that this help doesn't pay<br>the bill. It's quite easy to find bugs. Users, for example, are
<br>wonderful at that. NoMachine offers free downloads already and has a<br>staff trained at taking care of filling Trouble Reports. I think that<br>FreeNX developers should rather concentrate on helping with these<br>bugs, if they care about the future of NX.
<br><br>I know that the most fierce OSS defenders would like to see FreeNX out-<br>pace NoMachine in every respect and would like to see NX finally freed<br>of any commercial inheritance. These kind of people will never help
<br>us. They will rather throw their FUD at us, one of the preferred sports<br>in this industry. We are not concerned of competition. On the contrary<br>we think that there can be a place for both a OSS and a commercial<br>
NX version. Unfortunately it's difficult to compete with FreeNX when<br>we do 99% of the work and FreeNX keeps doing the 1% and giving it<br>away for free. Is this the way OSS development should work?<br><br>> Don't take potshots at them from a free forum. They don't owe us better
<br>> documentation. The code is a good enough gift to the community. If you<br>> want more you should pay for it.<br><br>Nothing is ever perfect. We are more than wishful to listen and improve,<br>as long as there is a clear idea of who's supposed to do the work.
<br>Bugs don't get fixed automatically just because somebody mentions them<br>in a mailing list. The same is true for the documentation. Instead of<br>criticizing all the time, people should rather ask themselves if they<br>
have really tried to help, or have gone the easier route, consisting<br>in the usual "thanks a lot, unfortunately this stuff is not good enough<br>for me, I'll come when it's ready". As far as I know, everytime I have
<br>asked somebody in the OSS community to help, he always responded that<br>he was already busy with some other thing. I can reassure you that I'm<br>tremendously busy too, and all the other people here are busy as well.
<br><br>/Gian Filippo.<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>FreeNX-kNX mailing list<br><a href="mailto:FreeNX-kNX@kde.org">FreeNX-kNX@kde.org</a><br><a href="https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx">
https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/freenx-knx</a><br></blockquote></div><br>