New on this mailing list ;-)

[Jens]

Hi Juraj,

Thanks for your welcome ;-)

Thanks for your technical information.

Yes, I agree with you: One should better use a specific program or library 
a.s.o provided by the respective Linux distribution and its package 
management. 

Only under exceptional circumstances I am using the source code of a program 
a.s.o., compile and install it on my machine.

Like when I am interested in the latest version of a specific program, which is 
here the case regarding Falkon. And also, like in this case, for doing some QA 
and maybe translations.

By the way, yesterday I reported my first bug report for Falkon in the KDE bug 
database.

I did not know Craft yet, thanks for the link, Juraj. I am not able to test a 
version of Falkon built for Craft because I do not have any Windows OS 
installed on my two machines here at home.

Best regards,

Jens


Am Samstag, 11. November 2023, 22:12:16 CET schrieb Juraj Oravec:
> On sobota 11. novembra 2023 11:16:04 CET Jens wrote:
> > Hi,
> 
> Hello,
> 
> > I am new on this mailing list. I am located in Germany.
> 
> Welcome.
> 
> > Yesterday I discovered Falkon as part of the KDE Desktop Environment
> > on kde.org and installed Falkon on my machine with Debian 12
> > ("Bookworm") from the Debian repositories.
> > 
> > I found out that the version of Falkon which the Debian repositories
> > provide for the current stable Debian 12 version is quite old.
> 
> Falkon version is often not that important since it depends on
> QtWebEngine which provides the thing which actualy does the internet
> stuff. Falkon kind of does the user interface and stuff around.
> So what is the most important is the QtWebEngine version which is being
> used.
> 
> > I then posted a toot on Mastodon about myself having discovered the
> > Falkon browser. Another Mastodon user answered to my toot telling me
> > that the latest executable file of the MS Windows version of Falkon
> > provided on https:// download.kde.org/Attic/falkon/ is quite old. So
> > first I thought the Falkon project is "dead".
> 
> Here I have to say:
> Developers shouldn't distribute their own software
> https://drewdevault.com/2019/12/09/Developers-shouldnt-distribute.html
> 
> Packaging and supprting many distributions is a huge burden on the
> developers, especially when the developers do not use the requested
> distribution.
> 
> I am aware there is a Craft with unreleased Falkon recipe to build it on
> MS Windows, but noone tested it enough to make it move to stable.
> 
> https://community.kde.org/Craft
> https://invent.kde.org/packaging/craft-blueprints-kde/-/blob/master/kde/
> unreleased/falkon/falkon.py?ref_type=heads
> 
> (sorry from mangled invent url)
> 
> > But then I looked at the Gitlab site at
> > https://invent.kde.org/network/falkon and found out that there are
> > people currently working on the code of Falkon.
> 
> Yes, Falkon is still being developed, more like being maintained with
> some new features.
> 
> > So I cloned the latest Falkon code to my machine this morning, had to
> > install an appr. extra 2 GB of Debian packages in order to be able to
> > successfully run cmake to completely configure Falkons source code
> > for compilation, compiled and then installed the Falkon code into my
> > home directory.
> 
> The development is like that, a lot of dependencies and tools, each few
> years new tools will come and you need them all.
> 
> > Now I have Falkon in version 24.01.75 installed on my machine.
> > 
> > A little hint: In the Help menu > About Falkon, the "About Falkon"
> > window still shows "© 2010 - 2018 David Rosca" - wouldn't it be time
> > to give an update to this time stamp? ;-)
> > 
> > The version of Falkon that comes with Debian 12 ("Bookworm") from its
> > repositories also has the time stamp "© 2010 - 2018 David Rosca".
> 
> Yes, the timestamp and the copyright was not updated.
> 
> > I think I could do some QA for the Falkon project, maybe also some
> > translations into German, if necessary.
> 
> If you wish to help, you are welcome
> 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Jens
> 
> Best regards,
> Juraj