Plans for the future and coordination

[Diego Gangl]

Hi all,

On lunes, 15 de enero de 2018 18:56:11 -03 Matthieu Gallien wrote:
[...] 
> Elisa is a music player developed by the KDE community that strives to be 
> simple and nice to use. We also recognize that we need a flexible product to 
> account for the different workflows and use-cases of our users.
> We focus on a very good integration with the Plasma desktop of the KDE 
> community without compromising the support for other platforms (other Linux 
> desktop environments, Windows and Android).
> We would like to build a reliable and enjoyable to use product. As we would 
> like to preserve the privacy of our users, we aim first for a music player for 
> your local music. We will support online services with a strong preference for 
> those where the user can control its data.
> 
> It is too verbose. I have not been able to shorten the last part.
> 


Idea for the last paragraph:

We are creating a reliable product that is a joy to use and respects our users privacy. As such, we will
support online services where users are in control of their data.

Cheers!

> > 
> > > I acknowledge our need to focus on small good steps toward a more complete
> > > product instead of spending our energy on a lot of things but without
> > > having solid features.
> > > 
> > > Given the feedback in the lwn.net thread, I am convinced we need to have a
> > > concept of "saved searches" or something like that. They may be added to
> > > the left list and would enable users to build their own way to browse
> > > their music. This is currently not my priority.
> > 
> > I just read the lwn.net thread, haven't done so before. There is useful
> > feedback in there besides the usual rants.
> > 
> > > We need to pay attention that a lot of people have moved to online only
> > > music. I would like not to ignore this.
> > 
> > I agree.
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Alex
> > 
> > > > > I also have some orthogonal important value:
> > > > > * being inclusive (welcome new developers, try to support as much as
> > > > > possible the diversity of possible users) ;
> > > > > * being as much as possible bug free ;
> > > > > * being geared toward satisfying user goals ;
> > > > > * being perfectly usable without network access and leverage network
> > > > > services when possible.
> > > > 
> > > > I agree on all points. But with all those we have to be careful that we
> > > > do
> > > > not get distracted too early. I would rather make Elisa perfect with
> > > > what
> > > > it is currently capable of (e.g. bug free, perfect usability
> > > > on the desktop etc.) before adding new big features or platforms.
> > > > 
> > > > Since I somewhat recently went through becoming a developer myself, I
> > > > was
> > > > about to enhance the documentation on the community web page a bit
> > > > anyways
> > > > and maybe also cleanup the repo, because some things confused me. That
> > > > may
> > > > help new developers a little.
> > > 
> > > Thanks, this is very useful.
> > > 
> > > > > We have to ensure our goals align with the goals of the overall KDE
> > > > > community.
> > > > > 
> > > > > The next step will be to produce a kind of vision statement and derive
> > > > > a
> > > > > kind of plan to help guide the development.
> > > > > See for example plasma vision statement
> > > > > (https://vizzzion.org/blog/2017/07/
> > > > > plasmas-vision/).
> > > > 
> > > > I'm wondering if we actually need our own vision statement or if it is
> > > > sufficient to be in line with the KDE goals (in the longterm). But that
> > > > is
> > > > up to you.
> > > 
> > > I have read the one from Plasma and somewhat feel that it may partly apply
> > > to us. I am still convinced that one for us would enable to easily answer
> > > the need to better explain our work to the KDE community and to a larger
> > > audience.
> > > 
> > > > Btw, thanks for the credits :)
> > > 
> > > You are doing a very good job and you already added a lot of nice things
> > > in
> > > this project. You deserve it.
> > > 
> > > > > Best regards
> > > > > 
> > > > > --
> > > > > Matthieu Gallien
> > > > 
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Alex
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > 
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> 
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Diego Gangl
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