Plans for the future and coordination

[Matthieu Gallien]

On dimanche 14 janvier 2018 16:44:48 CET Alexander Stippich wrote:
> Hello,
> 
[...]
> > 
> > What do you think ?
> 
> This is a good summary of what we try to achieve. I have nothing to add with
> regard to content. Some corrections for the language (but I'm not a native
> speaker):
> 
> "Elisa is a music player developed by the KDE community that strives to be
> simple and nice to use. We also recognize that we need a flexible product to
> account for the different workflows and use-cases of our users. We focus on
> a very good integration with the Plasma desktop of KDE without compromising
> the support for other platforms (other Linux desktop environments, Windows
> and Android). We would like to build a reliable and enjoyable to use
> product.  We aim for a music player for your local music first.  Support
> for online services will be added later.

Thanks for your feedback. I have another round of changes and after your 
feedback we may makes it public.

Elisa is a music player developed by the KDE community that strives to be 
simple and nice to use. We also recognize that we need a flexible product to 
account for the different workflows and use-cases of our users.
We focus on a very good integration with the Plasma desktop of the KDE 
community without compromising the support for other platforms (other Linux 
desktop environments, Windows and Android).
We would like to build a reliable and enjoyable to use product. As we would 
like to preserve the privacy of our users, we aim first for a music player for 
your local music. We will support online services with a strong preference for 
those where the user can control its data.

It is too verbose. I have not been able to shorten the last part.

> 
> > I acknowledge our need to focus on small good steps toward a more complete
> > product instead of spending our energy on a lot of things but without
> > having solid features.
> > 
> > Given the feedback in the lwn.net thread, I am convinced we need to have a
> > concept of "saved searches" or something like that. They may be added to
> > the left list and would enable users to build their own way to browse
> > their music. This is currently not my priority.
> 
> I just read the lwn.net thread, haven't done so before. There is useful
> feedback in there besides the usual rants.
> 
> > We need to pay attention that a lot of people have moved to online only
> > music. I would like not to ignore this.
> 
> I agree.
> 
> Best regards,
> Alex
> 
> > > > I also have some orthogonal important value:
> > > > * being inclusive (welcome new developers, try to support as much as
> > > > possible the diversity of possible users) ;
> > > > * being as much as possible bug free ;
> > > > * being geared toward satisfying user goals ;
> > > > * being perfectly usable without network access and leverage network
> > > > services when possible.
> > > 
> > > I agree on all points. But with all those we have to be careful that we
> > > do
> > > not get distracted too early. I would rather make Elisa perfect with
> > > what
> > > it is currently capable of (e.g. bug free, perfect usability
> > > on the desktop etc.) before adding new big features or platforms.
> > > 
> > > Since I somewhat recently went through becoming a developer myself, I
> > > was
> > > about to enhance the documentation on the community web page a bit
> > > anyways
> > > and maybe also cleanup the repo, because some things confused me. That
> > > may
> > > help new developers a little.
> > 
> > Thanks, this is very useful.
> > 
> > > > We have to ensure our goals align with the goals of the overall KDE
> > > > community.
> > > > 
> > > > The next step will be to produce a kind of vision statement and derive
> > > > a
> > > > kind of plan to help guide the development.
> > > > See for example plasma vision statement
> > > > (https://vizzzion.org/blog/2017/07/
> > > > plasmas-vision/).
> > > 
> > > I'm wondering if we actually need our own vision statement or if it is
> > > sufficient to be in line with the KDE goals (in the longterm). But that
> > > is
> > > up to you.
> > 
> > I have read the one from Plasma and somewhat feel that it may partly apply
> > to us. I am still convinced that one for us would enable to easily answer
> > the need to better explain our work to the KDE community and to a larger
> > audience.
> > 
> > > Btw, thanks for the credits :)
> > 
> > You are doing a very good job and you already added a lot of nice things
> > in
> > this project. You deserve it.
> > 
> > > > Best regards
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > Matthieu Gallien
> > > 
> > > Best regards,
> > > Alex
> > > 
> > > 
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