[digiKam-users] versions of pictures

Tue Apr 26 11:39:36 BST 2022

Which tool do you mean by "applying a metadata model"? The template tool? 
Applying a template is not a problem here, a new version is created. Remember, 
if you remove the XMP digiKam image history metadata, a new version will no 
longer be recognized.

Rating or tags cannot be applied in BQM at the moment, we already have a bug 
report wish.

Maik

Am Dienstag, 26. April 2022, 09:39:50 CEST schrieb frederic chaume:
> Hi Maik
> 
> I was using the "applying a metadata model" tool from the BQM in a
> workflow amongst other tools like watermark, resize,  and the image
> version generated with such BQM workflow were not visible in the version
> sidebar.
> When removing the "applying a metadata model" tool from the workklow ,
> the image version generated is now visible
> 
> by the way rating or tag is not availble in the BQM, no?
> 
> 
> Regards
> Frederic
> 
> Le 25/04/2022 à 13:10, Maik Qualmann a écrit :
> > Changing metadata does not create a new image version. Then just adding a
> > rating or a tag would create a new version.
> > 
> > Maik
> > 
> > Am Montag, 25. April 2022, 10:03:52 CEST schrieb frederic chaume:
> >> Hi Maik
> >> 
> >> Just noticed that the jpg are missing in the version sidebar  when I
> >> include a metada model in the BQM process.
> >> Is that normal ?
> >> 
> >> Regards
> >> 
> >> Frederic
> >> 
> >> Le 25/04/2022 à 09:30, frederic chaume a écrit :
> >>> Maik
> >>> 
> >>> in fact when I unset de flag in BQM "save image as a newly created
> >>> branch" , the result is not exactly what I was expecting
> >>> let me summarize the scenario
> >>> 
> >>> *X-original.jpg*          ==BQM process ==> *X-processed.jpg*    ==>
> >>> another BQM process   ==> *X-processed-2.jpg*
> >>> 
> >>> What I would like to see in the version sidebar
> >>> 
> >>>      *X-original.jpg*
> >>>      *X-processed.jpg *
> >>>      *X-processed-2.jpg*
> >>> 
> >>> but the result is not as expected and seems independent of the flag
> >>> "save image as a newly created branch"
> >>> 
> >>> in some case , the version sidebar is showing
> >>> 
> >>>      *X-original.jpg*
> >>> 
> >>> in some other case
> >>> 
> >>>      *X-processed.jpg *
> >>>      *X-processed-2.jpg*
> >>> 
> >>> *
> >>> *and in some case*
> >>> *
> >>> 
> >>>      **X-original.jpg**
> >>>      **X-processed.jpg **
> >>>      **X-processed-2.jpg**
> >>> 
> >>> *
> >>> *so I have some question :*
> >>> *
> >>> 
> >>>    * why in some case *X-original.jpg* is missing. I didn't figure out
> >>>    
> >>>      the difference when the *X-original.jpg* is missing or not. What I
> >>>      just notice is that it seems to be dependant of the folder : there
> >>>      are some folders where all the *X-original.jpg* are visible , and
> >>>      other where all the *X-original.jpg* are missing. => what can make
> >>>      the *X-original.jpg* missing or not in the version sidebar ?
> >>>    
> >>>    * why in some case *X-processed.jpg* is missing. Some of my BQM
> >>>    
> >>>      processed set the destination folder in another collection, can it
> >>>      be the reason why the file is not visible in the version sidebar ?
> >>>      in that case anything to do ?
> >>>    
> >>>    * what is the difference between setting or unsetting the flag "save
> >>>    
> >>>      image as a newly created branch" in the behavior? I don't see any
> >>>      (or I missed something)
> >>> 
> >>> thanks
> >>> Frederic
> >>> 
> >>> Le 24/04/2022 à 15:07, frederic chaume a écrit :
> >>>> Hi Maik
> >>>> 
> >>>> thanks for your answer
> >>>> Effectively there is a  version sidebar , but only versions created
> >>>> by the DK editor are visible here. I was looking for a solution to
> >>>> get a similar view of different versions of the same file.
> >>>> Good news , as you indicated, in BQM , I just unset the option "save
> >>>> image as a newly created branch" and now I can see effectively the
> >>>> generated versions in the version sidebar. thanks
> >>>> 
> >>>> other option was similarity, but as the generated jpeg may be
> >>>> different in term of size, format and watermark, the result is not
> >>>> accurate
> >>>> 
> >>>> Frederic
> >>>> 
> >>>> Le 24/04/2022 à 13:07, Maik Qualmann a écrit :
> >>>>> Maybe I don't fully understand the problem. The digiKam main view
> >>>>> also has a
> >>>>> version sidebar. You can see all versions of the image as a
> >>>>> thumbnail there.
> >>>>> Hovering over an entry will bring up a small image icon, clicking on
> >>>>> this will
> >>>>> take you straight to the album where the image is located.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I don't understand what you mean by version link at BQM. The BQM has
> >>>>> a setting
> >>>>> under Behavior whether a new standalone image is created or a new
> >>>>> version.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Maik
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Am Sonntag, 24. April 2022, 11:04:56 CEST schrieb frederic chaume:
> >>>>>> Hi all
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> using DK7.6 on windows
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> One point I'm looking for is the link between the different
> >>>>>> versions of
> >>>>>> a picture I'm generating from the raw to the different versions
> >>>>>> (format,
> >>>>>> usage, size,..).  Purpose is to easily retrieve the differents
> >>>>>> versions
> >>>>>> of the same pictures  without browsing the different album, or to
> >>>>>> check
> >>>>>> if a jpeg for a particular usage hasn't been already generated,...
> >>>>>> One solution would be to use the editor and use the version menu from
> >>>>>> the right sidebar, but as I'm using an external editor , even
> >>>>>> launched
> >>>>>> through the "open with" command, the link is lost.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> So I try different solutions:
> >>>>>>     * search tool with the name of the initial raw file (as I'm
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> keeping it
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>       all along the different generation). That the better solution
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> I've
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>       found, but it requires several manual operations and sometimes
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>       version found are not accurate when I forgot to mark the group
> >>>>>>       as
> >>>>>>       "opened" in the display menu. One suggestion would be to run
> >>>>>>       any
> >>>>>>       search with this option set as "opened", this will ensure an
> >>>>>>       accurate result
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>     * Similarity tool. simple to use , just right click on a picture.
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>       Unfortunately, not accurate (I tried with an indice between
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> 80-100%)
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>       as it doesn't detect the similarity when the size is different
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> or if
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>       you added a watermark. my Raw is generaly 4/3 and I can
> >>>>>>       generate
> >>>>>>       pictures in 3/2, 16/9,....
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>     * open with : I don't know if it would possible that in such case
> >>>>>>     a
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>       link would be generated to be visible in the version
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>     * BQM: when I'm generating a new version using the BQM, no link
> >>>>>>     is
> >>>>>>     
> >>>>>>       generated. couldn't it be possible to create the version link
> >>>>>>       in
> >>>>>>       that case ?(could be a 1st useful step)
> >>>>>>       
> >>>>>>         o by the way , possibility to add a tag in the BQM process
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> would
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>>           be also helpful (I think the request is already in
> >>>>>>           bugzilla)
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> any comments or suggestions ?
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> Frederic